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Surely that alone doesn't ruin two entire seasons. (major spoilers of course) Legolas Send a noteboard - 05/10/2009 09:51:12 PM
They are atrocious, don't get me wrong they have good espisodes, but the whole Buffy-Spike thing was laughable and ridiculous. Oh, we've lost our main dark/troubled vampire love interest to another series, what shall we do? Lets use the other one...wow, took them 5 seconds to think that up.

Especially since there's only a small beginning of it in season five. And while it wasn't the most original plot twist ever, they did make it kind of credible and fitted it nicely into the other drama of season six.
The season 5 Big Bad was mediocre. And whilst Willow at the end of 6 was pretty awesome for a few episodes, they totally stepped back from the edge and ruined what could have been one of the best dark moments in TV history.

Oh come on. She was awesome. I'm not sure about the season five ending, admittedly, but Glory had a ton of great lines and moments, and you've got to admit the Ben is Glory twist was a good one.
I'm not saying they were bad, just that they were not as good as teh 1st 3. They didn't have that perfect mix of comedy/horror/action/light/dark/moody/troubled/fun that the 1st 3 seasons had. Other than a few selected one-off episodes that didn't really follow the overacrhing seasons story.

They were darker, of course, so perhaps less comedy and less fun, which is even more true for season seven. But the overarching story was stronger than in seasons two and three, which still had a few of the "monster of the week" episodes like in the first season, and the extended cast, as well as their older age and hence wider possibilities, made things quite interesting, I thought. It would've been unrealistic to keep going in the same vein as if nothing had happened, as if things were still as they were before, despite everything that happened in seasons two, three and four.
Season 7 meanwhile was just a long turgid boring never ending discussion. It was most definately bad in almost every sense.

It had moments that were awesome, including the entirety of Conversations with Dead People, the Spike-Wood episode and everything involving Nathan Fillion, but yes, probably the weakest season except for one. As I said to Sophy, I thought all the additional characters cut into the screen time of the main cast, which left some of them with very few character development, while honestly the new characters weren't all that interesting except for Kennedy (and the girl in Conversations whose name I forget now). Not a big Faith fan, either, at least not in the way they handled her return. But then, supposedly it wasn't supposed to be the last season, so Whedon kind of had to improvise the series finale and all... perhaps it'd have been better otherwise.
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I started watching Buffy. - 05/10/2009 07:12:12 AM 1357 Views
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What do you want him for? *NM* - 05/10/2009 06:04:39 PM 494 Views
He is ridiculously goodlooking? *NM* - 06/10/2009 06:39:39 AM 478 Views
He's not! - 06/10/2009 06:44:03 AM 792 Views
Oh I think so. - 07/10/2009 07:43:25 AM 818 Views
Course you can - 05/10/2009 08:45:52 PM 902 Views
Re: Course you can - 06/10/2009 06:39:14 AM 851 Views
Hey! - 06/10/2009 06:46:15 AM 830 Views
You're in luck. - 05/10/2009 09:07:51 AM 896 Views
Spike ROCKSSS!!! I'd go gay for that character LOL - 05/10/2009 06:38:12 PM 849 Views
Re: You're in luck. - 08/10/2009 05:06:13 AM 838 Views
It most certainly gets better. - 05/10/2009 11:11:29 AM 952 Views
Re: It most certainly gets better. - 05/10/2009 05:52:52 PM 946 Views
It peaks with Season 3 - 05/10/2009 12:16:29 PM 853 Views
Re: It peaks with Season 3 - 05/10/2009 05:15:41 PM 892 Views
thats one of the greatest episodes of ANY show of all time IMO - 05/10/2009 06:40:14 PM 845 Views
That's the one. - 05/10/2009 07:38:21 PM 844 Views
No! - 05/10/2009 05:59:44 PM 860 Views
Good to know I'm not the only one who thinks that. - 05/10/2009 06:02:07 PM 841 Views
Exactly! - 05/10/2009 06:09:51 PM 873 Views
Re: No! - 05/10/2009 06:16:06 PM 789 Views
I didnt like S7. - 05/10/2009 06:56:15 PM 786 Views
Seconded on Conversations. - 05/10/2009 09:35:21 PM 794 Views
Wow, a rare chance to correct your writing - 16/10/2009 05:26:25 PM 997 Views
You're right. *NM* - 16/10/2009 05:33:44 PM 449 Views
Some people didn't care for Six's Big Bad, but I thought it was one of the better seasons. - 05/10/2009 06:29:40 PM 801 Views
I loved the trio! *spoilers* - 05/10/2009 06:51:09 PM 826 Views
Yes, the archnemeseses.... LOL *NM* - 05/10/2009 07:52:45 PM 504 Views
God no *SPOILERS* - 05/10/2009 07:51:53 PM 972 Views
Surely that alone doesn't ruin two entire seasons. (major spoilers of course) - 05/10/2009 09:51:12 PM 992 Views
I agree. - 06/10/2009 06:53:37 AM 867 Views
Good for you! - 05/10/2009 06:02:53 PM 853 Views
Welcome to the Hellmouth, Jessie! - 05/10/2009 07:51:45 PM 869 Views
It's awesome all the way through - 05/10/2009 09:06:37 PM 845 Views
Heh., I watched the first two episodes tonight. - 05/10/2009 09:21:54 PM 795 Views
I will judge you - 05/10/2009 10:28:10 PM 836 Views
Well. Your judgment hardly counts. - 05/10/2009 10:59:51 PM 748 Views
Re: Heh., I watched the first two episodes tonight. - 06/10/2009 06:40:18 AM 805 Views
Oh... - 06/10/2009 08:58:43 AM 850 Views
*points and laughs* - 06/10/2009 09:01:10 AM 834 Views
No. You have not earned the right to criticize my taste. - 07/10/2009 11:59:22 AM 804 Views
Who else matters? - 07/10/2009 07:45:44 AM 769 Views
Well... - 07/10/2009 11:58:16 AM 789 Views
That's weak. - 08/10/2009 12:24:33 AM 801 Views
I loved them back in the day - 08/10/2009 08:38:05 PM 814 Views
I have rewatched the entirety of Buffy and Angel at least 7 times each. - 09/10/2009 01:01:57 AM 845 Views
Buffy is GREAT and has a wide range. It's not exactly necessary to watch Angel, though... *NM* - 09/10/2009 11:38:13 AM 553 Views
Oh, it is! - 15/10/2009 08:08:04 AM 818 Views
Yay Buffy - 09/10/2009 02:15:23 PM 774 Views
I must say I liked the mayor. That kind of insanity makes shows like this fun. *NM* - 16/10/2009 09:54:49 PM 398 Views
Three seasons in eleven days? Impressive. - 16/10/2009 10:35:53 PM 794 Views
well, nothing on tv... - 16/10/2009 10:56:29 PM 768 Views
You fast forward? - 17/10/2009 01:56:55 PM 757 Views
Yep, occasionally. - 17/10/2009 07:56:21 PM 846 Views
Yes! He's one of my favourites. - 17/10/2009 12:38:42 PM 790 Views
Snyder would need more screentime, really. - 17/10/2009 07:59:03 PM 795 Views
Re: Buffy is thematically inconsistent. But the 1st three seasons are great, and so is season five. - 28/10/2009 06:54:23 PM 761 Views
darn, too late. - 28/10/2009 07:35:29 PM 783 Views
Season six is awesome, just, you know, pure angst. *NM* - 30/10/2009 10:28:31 PM 396 Views

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