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Re: I'd rather see Aviendha and Elayne link and take her out Datakim Send a noteboard - 07/06/2010 10:00:44 PM

All kidding aside I think that would be way better than having Rand kill all the FS ... Perrin, Nyna, Egwene, Mat, Elayne and Aviendha should get to kill a few of them too :)

I can see Nynaeve taking out Moghedien once and for all, Mat and Demandred, Avi/Elayne can do for Cyndane, and I imagine Egwene may do for Mesaana. Perhaps Perrin will somehow get involved with aran'gar ... okay I know this is a stretch :P


Rand has not killed all the FS. Moiraine took out Be'lal and Lanfear. Treeguy took out Balthamel. Nynaeve was instrumental at taking out Rahvin even if Rand dealt the final blow. Sammael was taken out as much by Moridin and Mashadar as Rand. Ishamael was killed by Rand, but only thanks to the super-boost from Callandor. Aginor prettymuch killed himself. Asmodean was killed by mysterious stranger. Rand did kill Semirhage, but only thanks to the DO and True Power. We don't even know if Graendal is dead, but if she is its less due to Rand's skill and more due to Choedan Kal. A novice could have killed her with that thing.

I want Rand to face a skilled forsaken such as Cyndane or Demandred, one on one, skill vs skill and win entirely on his own merits. Is that too much to ask?

Rand also faced Lanfear before, and failed miserably due to his stupid woman-killing-thing and his insanity. I want Rand to face Cyndane because I want a rematch between the two. A proper fight where Rand is sane and willing to fight. Essentially a redemption for his previous failure that got Moiraine imprisoned.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot Osan'gar who got killed by Elza. Another Forsaken-death Rand had nothing to do with. :)
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Re: I'd rather see Aviendha and Elayne link and take her out Datakim - 07/06/2010 10:00:44 PM 1243 Views
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Re: You are quite right, I should have said "kill all the remaining FS" Datakim - 07/06/2010 10:22:11 PM 1192 Views
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