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I'm not disagreeing with most of it darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 08/06/2010 01:49:54 PM
Demandred has probably several groups/nations under his control (but Graendal didn't figure it out):

Murandy, most of the Dragonsworn bands and possibly Tarabon. This could make Demandred one of the most successful Forsaken to create chaos. He even stated in this quote from WH that he is "working together" with Semirhage & Mesaana to defeat opponents. We know that there was apparently contact between Masema and Suroth. Similarly, I think it's possible that the new installed King of Tarabon worked with the Seanchan, because of Demandred's orders (though if he is under Demandred's control, he might now turn against the Seanchan, after Semirhage is gone).


I'd just be surprised if Demandred had his fingers as far out as Seanchan controlled Tarabon. IMO that's putting him into Semirhage's sphere of influence. And we know he wasn't there prior to that since Moghedien wasn't afraid of going to Tanchico.

I do think he could have easily been behind the Dragonsworn, throughout that region. But I'd be surprised if any of the FS did more than just get that ball rolling, sort of like what Sammael did with the Shaido.

I could also see crediting Graendal for the Dragonsworn along the entire west coast of the continent though. She seems to have influenced events from Arad Domon south into at least Almoth Plain by using Ituralde. Her manipulations could have ignited even Tarabon and Moghedien was having meetings with her at about the right time too.

As I stated before I'm in the Demandred is Reodran (or someone close to him) camp. Given the other FS track record I'm not holding my breath that he's going to be any more impressive than the others have been thus far.
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Re: I'd rather see Aviendha and Elayne link and take her out Datakim - 07/06/2010 10:00:44 PM 1018 Views
You are quite right, I should have said "kill all the remaining FS" darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 10:08:49 PM 1042 Views
Re: You are quite right, I should have said "kill all the remaining FS" Datakim - 07/06/2010 10:22:11 PM 953 Views
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Meh. I think Elaida will end up like other women in the series who sucked darius_sedai - 06/06/2010 10:56:47 PM 1055 Views
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but no carts or wagons. darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 12:15:29 AM 1050 Views
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you are missing the point that this would create several major problems darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 01:49:08 PM 1008 Views
Advantages and Disadvantages to both large and small gateways Knightscape - 08/06/2010 03:04:28 AM 998 Views
The logistics would be practically impossible, as even RJ stated (see quote below) darius_sedai - 08/06/2010 01:41:03 PM 986 Views
But the Seanchan have an advantage the Perrin did not... Night Walker - 07/06/2010 02:45:26 AM 1046 Views
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Double Post -Sorry - NM! *NM* Underwood - 07/06/2010 08:22:23 PM 434 Views
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One disagreement darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 09:33:09 PM 989 Views
I agree...but Night Walker - 07/06/2010 09:44:54 PM 916 Views
That's just it ... Egwene, Elayne and Rand have already thought of it and considered the uses darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 10:04:50 PM 1018 Views
Egwene to pass information? You're joking, right? Skeeve the Great - 07/06/2010 10:59:25 PM 1068 Views
He did say it was unlikely BlackAdder - 07/06/2010 11:23:20 PM 1111 Views
Thanks! darius_sedai - 08/06/2010 12:02:27 AM 936 Views
Not to mention... fionwe1987 - 07/06/2010 09:26:28 PM 961 Views
Re: Not to mention... Night Walker - 07/06/2010 09:38:31 PM 907 Views
yes, but the cost may prove too high to allocate so many resources against Traveling darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 09:44:16 PM 883 Views
Something from RJ Datakim - 07/06/2010 09:43:16 PM 922 Views
NICE! darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 09:55:03 PM 788 Views
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Re: If they get Traveling, I hope we read the first time the Seanchan move their "creatures" through Datakim - 07/06/2010 11:03:22 PM 970 Views
That's a good point darius_sedai - 08/06/2010 12:05:30 AM 953 Views
The little thing is Rand's angreal IMO Sidious - 07/06/2010 04:52:17 AM 912 Views
Rand has a powerful sa'angreal though. Rurouni_Kenshin - 07/06/2010 08:35:06 AM 943 Views
But this was often suggested Etzel - 07/06/2010 10:30:17 AM 970 Views
I think the thing from books 4-6 has to do with dreaming/TAR abilities. TaskmasterJack - 08/06/2010 12:09:53 AM 907 Views
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What's to prevent him from hiding as a female? *NM* BlackAdder - 06/06/2010 10:30:08 PM 425 Views
Forgive me if I don't give that possibility serious consideration. Shannow - 06/06/2010 10:36:20 PM 920 Views
Bc it's clearly way too dissatisfying. And Demmy's certainly too proud to hide as a woman! *NM* newyorkersedai - 07/06/2010 01:01:52 AM 488 Views
Not entirely... if he's Egwene that explains a lot BlackAdder - 07/06/2010 02:17:56 AM 955 Views
You misread, IMO newyorkersedai - 07/06/2010 12:59:58 AM 1078 Views
Thank you yet again, Etzel newyorkersedai - 07/06/2010 01:07:02 AM 822 Views
Well. Galgan, then. *NM* StinkerSkunk - 07/06/2010 04:05:57 PM 481 Views
*NM* *NM* StinkerSkunk - 07/06/2010 04:06:38 PM 465 Views
Can't be Galgan Etzel - 07/06/2010 04:37:36 PM 872 Views
See we can agree on stuff *NM* darius_sedai - 07/06/2010 06:35:52 PM 404 Views
Of course, we can. *NM* Etzel - 07/06/2010 07:26:00 PM 418 Views
galgan's out, but maybe... newyorkersedai - 07/06/2010 07:01:12 PM 868 Views
Or... Etzel - 08/06/2010 09:37:21 AM 886 Views
I doubt the new Taraboner king is involved darius_sedai - 08/06/2010 12:52:45 PM 1211 Views
As I said, I think... Etzel - 08/06/2010 01:30:39 PM 869 Views
I'm not disagreeing with most of it darius_sedai - 08/06/2010 01:49:54 PM 871 Views
look above, you guys agreed on stuff for 19 hours. New record? *NM* newyorkersedai - 08/06/2010 04:12:47 PM 414 Views
LMAO darius_sedai - 08/06/2010 11:01:57 PM 1144 Views
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