Active Users:426 Time:17/09/2025 02:27:23 AM
The Dark One vs. the Creator Etzel Send a noteboard - 09/06/2010 09:54:41 PM
I just wonder what the DO would actually gain, if he manages to break out of his prison, except for a short time being free. Even if the DO could immediately destroy all creation and maybe remake it in his own way, it seems logical that at least then the Creator would interfere and imprison the DO anew, which would start the whole cycle again.

Or do you think that the DO could actually kill or imprison the Creator on his own, if he gets free, and thus ultimately win (except if the Creator breaks free again). Doesn't seem likely, though, considering that the DO obviously couldn't prevent to be imprisoned before.

Another idea is that the DO can't kill or defeat the Creator on his own, but perhaps he might be able to achieve this, if he completely corrupts the Creator's Champion, the Dragon, to use him as a tool/weapon against the Creator (e.g. by giving the Dragon complete access to the TP). This would better explain, why the Shadow would rather have Rand on his side - and not dead - to win the ultimate victory, namely killing/imprisoning the Creator. Also Lanfear seemed to think that Rand & her could challenge the Creator with the Choedan Kal. Finally, RJ answered that it would theoretically even be possible to balefire the DO, although that this would destroy the world. Maybe the Creator could be balefired as well (one wonders, though, where he is exactly).
Reply to message
The Dark One vs. the Creator - 09/06/2010 09:54:41 PM 1099 Views
What I never understand in any fantasy series... - 09/06/2010 10:22:13 PM 733 Views
utter evil always seems a bit shallow in the end - 09/06/2010 11:16:59 PM 581 Views
Especially if you're immortal - 10/06/2010 03:47:26 AM 555 Views
Here's another stumper for these things, but first - 10/06/2010 12:08:41 AM 629 Views
Without discussing theodicy (that's a CMB sort of discussion)... - 10/06/2010 03:53:31 AM 930 Views
I don't think RJ shows a balanced power system - 10/06/2010 12:23:03 PM 543 Views
It's name is the Creator, maby it's unable to destroy the DO? *NM* - 15/06/2010 09:02:12 AM 222 Views
I think I get the goal of the one in WoT though. *NM* - 10/06/2010 12:11:57 AM 235 Views
It's like Aerosmith said... - 10/06/2010 01:36:17 AM 552 Views
But Shai'tan is operating as though it's about the goal, not the journey. *NM* - 10/06/2010 03:55:27 AM 251 Views
That is his thought... - 11/06/2010 01:54:42 AM 471 Views
I agree that Shaitan must've been behind the "Crying/Crazy/Amazin'" songs *NM* - 10/06/2010 03:25:26 PM 309 Views
that's kind of the point... - 10/06/2010 04:19:30 AM 543 Views
This. - 10/06/2010 04:40:34 AM 551 Views
Exactly. I've been saying this for quite a while - 10/06/2010 10:29:01 PM 482 Views
I'll give this a go... - 10/06/2010 05:19:49 AM 596 Views
destroy the circular nature of the wheel, instead of the wheel - 11/06/2010 05:04:41 PM 473 Views
I don't agree with many of these people - I think the bad guys have plausible agendas - 10/06/2010 08:45:52 AM 520 Views
Personally I think the Wheel is the DOs prison not just an "eyesore" - 10/06/2010 12:29:13 PM 477 Views
Probably a chicken and egg scenario - 10/06/2010 03:29:34 PM 453 Views
probably! - 11/06/2010 02:18:29 AM 494 Views
As others said... - 10/06/2010 08:46:46 AM 479 Views
It could be that Dark One's goal is own death - 10/06/2010 02:18:13 AM 515 Views
Then why would he fight so hard? - 10/06/2010 03:54:55 AM 630 Views
I like this idea... - 10/06/2010 08:47:52 AM 562 Views
I don't think he can die - 10/06/2010 08:57:05 AM 542 Views
Well... - 10/06/2010 04:32:45 AM 587 Views
So... - 10/06/2010 08:49:48 AM 578 Views
Seems unlikely to me. - 10/06/2010 06:09:46 PM 561 Views
Re: Well... - 10/06/2010 11:00:07 PM 485 Views
Re: Well... - 11/06/2010 12:12:55 AM 494 Views
Re: Well... - 10/06/2010 11:10:55 PM 482 Views
Re: Well... - 11/06/2010 12:20:28 AM 458 Views
Re: Well... - 11/06/2010 01:34:33 AM 453 Views
Okay. - 11/06/2010 05:11:26 AM 432 Views
Re: Okay. - 11/06/2010 05:25:08 AM 497 Views
Oh, no. - 11/06/2010 06:26:55 AM 501 Views
OK - I get it! - 11/06/2010 04:45:49 PM 442 Views

Reply to Message