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Re: As you said... Etzel Send a noteboard - 10/06/2010 09:14:25 PM
To take over Graendal's network, Aran'gar needed this alliance with Graendal to find out how to gain her network. Again, this suggests one Graendal/Aran'gar scene to set this up.

You really tend to overlook the fact that for everyone not in Rand\Egwene's storyline, there's a good chance we're going back to a short while after KOD ended.


It isn't likely at all for a character, who already died in the book before, to suddenly appear again in the next book, at some point in the timeline of this character before. Such a jump back never happened before, if a character died. It would be as strange as Rahvin suddenly appearing in LoC in a scene before his death. Or Sammael being alive in PoD. It doesn't make much sense, especially since BS said that only "Graendal’s name will be mentioned a few times" in ToM.

If Graendal has passed some vital informations to Aran'gar, it simply makes more sense that Aran'gar will remember in a PoV im ToM her last talk with Graendal before she died, where she told this.

I don't see the logic there. Aran'gar could have killed anyone to sow more dissension... it was utterly stupid to kill just Kairen and Anayia, the two women tied to Cabriana. Even if she had a reason to get them out of the way beside creating dissension and fear of the Asha'man alliance, she would not have been so stupid as to kill these two only. It even looks like Lelaine and the Blue had made the connection before Romanda did, but didn't know what to make of it.


Aran'gar probably is that stupid for plot's sake.. But seriously, if Romanda hadn't put it together, likely no one else had seen the connection to Cabriana and Halima.

In any case, if Aran'gar killed these two and left traces as she did (unlike what's she's done with the maids), it was obviously to make the Asha'man alliance derail, and if so that leaves us with the big question of which Forsaken ordered Moria, a BA, to come up with this plan in the first place. Who can it be but Mesaana, really?


It probably was Aran'gar's plan.

Who screamed at Aran'gar she must sow more dissension among the rebels if not Mesaana herself anyway. You also overlook the fact this is the first time Mesaana revealed openly she was tied to the Aes Sedai. Aran'gar didn't miss that, and thought immediately how wonderful it would be to find an oppportunity to split the trio.


That was before Aran'gar was forced to leave the Rebels, though. Like Aran'gar was previously commanded by SH to join the Rebels, it simply makes sense that he gave his "dagger" a new task to spread chaos, after she had to quit that job.

She says herself she knows her disguise in the Tower in TGS...

Now, ask yourself why Jordan put that in the prologue...


No, I think Graendal just knows that Mesaana must be an AS, but not who exactly.
This message last edited by Etzel on 10/06/2010 at 09:19:09 PM
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