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As said... Etzel Send a noteboard - 07/07/2010 03:56:20 PM
But two Forsaken at the same place, namely Demandred and Osan'gar, doesn't make real sense.


Why not? Mesaana may be the 'White Tower' Forsaken, but Lanfear and even Graendal were continuously hatching their own plots from that base. Demandred has his finger in many pies, as DomA said. It's not as if he's competing with Osan'gar in that area.


Demandred likely has spies among the AM and might use DF there occasionally, but he certainly doesn't control the BT. Basically just the 100 cronies are truly on Taim's side. It's quite laughable that Demandred would be proud to control these 100 channelers, if he likely commanded tens of thousands channelers in the AoL, and especially if he provided Rand with 400-500 channelers at the same time. Besides that, Demandred was a politician and General of trained troops, not a trainer or teacher himself. It's hard to imagine that someone like Demandred had the motivation or patience to train other channelers. Therefore Demandred is not even needed at the BT. Finally, the notion that the secretive Demandred ordered to paint the fist symbol on Taim's palace is simply ludicrous; he had to fear that other Forsaken or Rand/LTT might recognize it, thus it makes no sense for him to show it. It's rather likely that Taim learned about it in Ishy's lessons and considered it appropiate. Also, no Forsaken comments that the AM are built or trained like army channelers in the AoL.
This message last edited by Etzel on 07/07/2010 at 03:57:38 PM
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