My point is simply that you are mistaking their place in the hierarchy
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 20/07/2010 11:46:52 PM
Despite the mental gymnastics and sophistry Cannoli wants to play around with, the Forsaken occupy a role in the story as villains. They may be henchmen and tools of the Dark One but they are no less villainous just because they answer to an ultimate embodiment of evil.
My take on the criticism (which Sidious' reply suggests is accurate) is that as ULTIMATE villains they fall short. They aren't so much antagonists as examples of the consequences of defeat or failure. Are you any deader if Rahvin rips your soul from your body than if a Darkfriend stabs you in the back or a Trolloc dismembers you for lunch? I think WoT has thoroughly demonstrated the principle that anyone can take out anyone else. IMO, the network of Darkfriends who could include anybody from the bum on the street to the head of state is much more menacing. Worrying about the Forsaken is like worrying about nuclear war - you just have to hope it's not going to land on your head, and stop fussing. The Forsaken are more effective as a deterrant. In other words, even a partial victory of the Shadow, or a stalemate or something could result in these loser D-bags having their own way forever.
Cannoli
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless
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Deus Vult!
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
RJ finally got a villain right, then killed him in the same book.
- 15/07/2010 10:10:16 PM
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Re: RJ finally got a villain right, then killed him in the same book.
- 16/07/2010 03:01:30 AM
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The Forsaken are not THE villain(s), they are cannon fodder!
- 19/07/2010 04:16:04 AM
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And that's why they're crappy villains
- 19/07/2010 07:24:05 AM
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Cannoli misses the point. The Forsaken are all villains. It is the Dark One that is the true evil
- 19/07/2010 04:01:34 PM
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The Forsaken are henchmen. Like the eels in The Little Mermaid or the hyenas in The Lion King
- 20/07/2010 03:14:37 AM
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Absolutely correct, but you miss the point.
- 20/07/2010 02:48:22 PM
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Exactly.
- 20/07/2010 04:08:22 PM
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My point is simply that you are mistaking their place in the hierarchy
- 20/07/2010 11:46:52 PM
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No
- 19/07/2010 08:01:03 PM
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I'll call your "no" and raise you a "WTH?"
- 19/07/2010 08:44:19 PM
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The Dark One is the threat. He is the enemy from whom the world needs saving, NOT the Forsaken
- 20/07/2010 02:35:48 AM
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Re: The Dark One is the threat. He is the enemy from whom the world needs saving, NOT the Forsaken
- 21/07/2010 05:29:51 AM
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