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Re: Perhaps they would die? Lordling Send a noteboard - 05/08/2010 08:33:18 AM
Not even Semirhage could actually overcome the oaths through torture alone. The problem is that it does not matter how much the subject WANTS to obey the torturer, the oaths work despite that. I suppose if you tortured someone for so long that they went utterly and completely insane then some of the oaths might be bypassed since the perceptions would be distorted.

I'm not saying she could torture someone to break an oath.
She likes to do her torture in a private, completely controlled environment. The Oath Rod could be used to create a more interesting, unique scenario. If she forces someone to swear "I will not give in to pain and will not cry" I bet she she'd find that an interesting experiment. Almost as good as testing what will happen if the victim's blood is removed...


Or lets say using OP as a weapon. The oath states that OP can be used as a weapon only in self defense, or the defense of a warder or _another sister_. If an AS damane could somehow be completely convinced that since she is property of the Empire, all female seanchan are her sisters, then she could use the OP as a weapon to protect any female soldiers in danger(her sisters).

I don't understand you logic here at all. In this context a "sister" is another Aes Sedai. Aes Sedai are sisters, Amyrlin is the Mother and novices are children. Property don't have sisters, they're not related to anyone.

Aes Sedai probably couldn't channel to save their biological sisters, because they all understand the Oath to mean just Aes Sedai sisters, and are thus bound by their interpretation.
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or just adapt the one power as a weapon oath to include a sister's freedom as well as her life *NM* nigelgoboom - 04/08/2010 01:45:43 AM 451 Views
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they can't Foxhead - 04/08/2010 12:54:46 AM 1075 Views
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Re: they can't fionwe1987 - 04/08/2010 07:09:45 AM 1035 Views
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read the oaths again darius_sedai - 04/08/2010 08:15:24 PM 1005 Views
Re: read the oaths again Datakim - 05/08/2010 01:08:32 AM 1074 Views
Re: read the oaths again darius_sedai - 05/08/2010 05:52:08 PM 1013 Views
I don't think #1 is as simple as you say. Gher - 04/08/2010 02:22:25 AM 991 Views
What kind of advantage is it, anyway? Fanatic-Templar - 04/08/2010 03:43:40 AM 958 Views
Re: What kind of advantage is it, anyway? DomA - 04/08/2010 11:16:03 AM 937 Views
Gher - 04/08/2010 04:04:35 PM 919 Views
Egwene had novices teach it to Adelorna... fionwe1987 - 04/08/2010 07:10:42 AM 1022 Views
For the most part, they can only defend themselves... DomA - 04/08/2010 10:59:23 AM 1148 Views
Yes, we really need to see... Nameless Ashaman - 04/08/2010 01:19:15 PM 946 Views
Re: For the most part, they can only defend themselves... Code_Man65 - 04/08/2010 03:35:53 PM 980 Views
Re: For the most part, they can only defend themselves... Watcher - 04/08/2010 04:41:41 PM 936 Views
Re: For the most part, they can only defend themselves... Datakim - 05/08/2010 01:17:44 AM 988 Views
I think the BT would wipe the floor with the damane on their home turf darius_sedai - 05/08/2010 08:19:38 PM 927 Views
Re: I think the BT would wipe the floor with the damane on their home turf Datakim - 05/08/2010 11:57:43 PM 955 Views
Whoa whoa whoa! Nameless Ashaman - 06/08/2010 03:07:34 AM 945 Views
agreed! darius_sedai - 06/08/2010 05:37:46 PM 994 Views
Re: Whoa whoa whoa! Datakim - 06/08/2010 07:42:35 PM 1063 Views
Are you kidding? darius_sedai - 06/08/2010 11:49:42 PM 1000 Views
I actually think the opposite: the damane would wipe the floor with the BT RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/08/2010 11:27:21 PM 980 Views
Umm... Dumai's wells? Nameless Ashaman - 14/08/2010 04:15:59 AM 922 Views
Depends on the circumstances really darius_sedai - 14/08/2010 02:39:30 PM 970 Views
I don't think that's the case darius_sedai - 05/08/2010 08:02:27 PM 1084 Views
My thoughts on the damane... Great Lord of Chaos - 05/08/2010 04:11:35 AM 934 Views
Re: My thoughts on the damane... Datakim - 05/08/2010 01:24:38 PM 974 Views
How exactly would Egwene learn where the Damane are kept? darius_sedai - 05/08/2010 07:57:55 PM 1183 Views
Interrogate the Damane. Great Lord of Chaos - 05/08/2010 10:32:17 PM 837 Views
unlikely that she would go there darius_sedai - 06/08/2010 05:37:18 PM 959 Views
Re: unlikely that she would go there Datakim - 06/08/2010 07:47:41 PM 905 Views
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