But he needed Semirhage to remove the vestiges of the weave, thus implying that while he can recognize when a weave has been placed or even what it does, he cannot nullify the same weave.
Removing compulsion without destroying the victim's mind is a subtle and tricky operation. Semirhage would probably be among the best to try it. If SH somehow removed the compulsion by simply nullifying the source (assuming he can do that), it may have left Elza useless for anything else.
This doesn't prove SH broke Cadsuane's wards as we don't know that he can affect existing weaves, but it does keep the possibility open.
EDIT: As Datakim's post below has reminded me, BS has already pretty much implied that Elza penetrated the wards after being given knowledge of the necessary weaves to do so.
This message last edited by Nameless Ashaman on 12/08/2010 at 05:32:51 PM
Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
- 12/08/2010 09:49:32 AM
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it's been discussed a lot
- 12/08/2010 11:00:06 AM
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Really? All the questions it poses?
- 12/08/2010 11:06:11 AM
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Havent seen this exact discussion before either.. *NM*
- 12/08/2010 11:06:45 AM
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see my further reply =oP I'm 13% less of a jerkface than it looks *NM*
- 12/08/2010 12:10:28 PM
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Re: Really? All the questions it poses?
- 12/08/2010 11:56:26 AM
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not really
- 12/08/2010 02:08:41 PM
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Yep, pretty much. Otherwise he could have just nullified the Compulsions' lingering effect on Elza
- 12/08/2010 02:11:24 PM
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As demonstrated in TGS...
- 12/08/2010 05:27:21 PM
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We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal with that weave
- 12/08/2010 07:16:30 PM
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Re: We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal
- 12/08/2010 08:21:32 PM
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Re: We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal
- 12/08/2010 08:32:41 PM
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Re: We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal
- 13/08/2010 06:51:45 AM
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I replied to the topic before you edited to ask all the extra questions
- 12/08/2010 12:08:27 PM
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- 12/08/2010 12:08:27 PM
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Both Bair and Sorilea knew
- 12/08/2010 10:33:59 PM
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Fallacy of logic
- 12/08/2010 10:58:49 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
- 12/08/2010 02:43:23 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
- 12/08/2010 05:42:00 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
- 12/08/2010 08:06:25 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
- 12/08/2010 08:20:44 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
- 12/08/2010 08:32:21 PM
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Who most wanted to get rid of Cadsuane BESIDES Rand?
- 12/08/2010 09:01:44 PM
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Can't be Sorilea
- 13/08/2010 11:50:53 AM
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Re: Can't be Sorilea
- 13/08/2010 08:46:02 PM
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Re: Can't be Sorilea
- 14/08/2010 12:00:40 AM
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Re: Can't be Sorilea
- 14/08/2010 12:34:18 AM
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Not necessarily, Sorilea still could have watched Cadsuane untie the weaves
- 15/08/2010 01:53:27 AM
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Re: Not necessarily, Sorilea still could have watched Cadsuane untie the weaves
- 15/08/2010 12:53:42 PM
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I think that Couladin was a dark friend.
- 13/08/2010 03:00:20 AM
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I'd be surprised, actually.
- 13/08/2010 05:34:13 AM
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Couladin and Asmodean
- 13/08/2010 08:33:38 AM
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Re: Couladin and Asmodean
- 13/08/2010 04:45:21 PM
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Couldin isn't intolerant. He's murderously xenophobic.
- 14/08/2010 05:45:15 PM
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Almost ALL of the Aiel were murderously Xenophobic before Rand united them. *NM*
- 15/08/2010 01:00:37 PM
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Noone betrayed 'Cadsuane'-That was just a happy side affect (for the DO)
- 15/08/2010 08:22:59 AM
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*Sigh* it is 2:20 AM so this is a double post. (You can ignore this one) *NM* *NM*
- 15/08/2010 08:23:49 AM
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