Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
Datakim Send a noteboard - 12/08/2010 08:32:21 PM
I think the evidence points at Sorilea still, or at least is meant to frame her. If Rand hadn't banished Cadsuane on the spot she might have mentioned that Sorilea was the only person besides her who knew that:
a) Cadsuane had the DB and CK
I am pretty sure this is not true. Sorilea may have been the one to know the precise details, but I think the fact that Cadsuane had the DB and CK was common knowledge. It is mentioned that Cadsuane had been testing the female a'dam, and asking permission to test the male one too. We know Rand had been asking for the access key back with Cadsuane refusing to give it.
No, it was no secret that Cadsuane had the DB. The only thing unique about Sorilea is that she knew the exact location, but thats not a big deal since Cadsuane was stupid enough to keep them in her room which would be the first place anyone would look. All Elza would have had to do was enter her room and search for a while to discover the box and the wards. And since Cadsuane was not present and visiting the WO, Elza would have had plenty of time. Sorilea is not required.
b) How to remove the warding.
Again, according to BS, Elza broke the warding on her own thanks to something SH taught/did to her. We don't know how exactly, but if you search back you will find that its been speculated that she was given temporary access to TP and other possibilities. But again, Sorilea is not required.
It stands very likely that there must be a high ranking aiel DF close to Rand, as there has been an important DF of every other group close to either Rand (Dashiva, Elza, etc) or every group's leader (Sheriam, Alviarin, etc).
Maybe there is, or maybe the Aiel are unique in that they were better at keeping DF away due to their culture. Maybe its Rhuarc. Maybe Amys. Or one of the maidens. I don't deny the possibility that Sorilea is a darkfriend, but at this point it is just speculation, and the DB incident neither proves or disproves it.
Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
- 12/08/2010 09:49:32 AM
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it's been discussed a lot
- 12/08/2010 11:00:06 AM
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Really? All the questions it poses?
- 12/08/2010 11:06:11 AM
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Havent seen this exact discussion before either.. *NM*
- 12/08/2010 11:06:45 AM
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see my further reply =oP I'm 13% less of a jerkface than it looks *NM*
- 12/08/2010 12:10:28 PM
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Re: Really? All the questions it poses?
- 12/08/2010 11:56:26 AM
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not really
- 12/08/2010 02:08:41 PM
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Yep, pretty much. Otherwise he could have just nullified the Compulsions' lingering effect on Elza
- 12/08/2010 02:11:24 PM
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As demonstrated in TGS...
- 12/08/2010 05:27:21 PM
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We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal with that weave
- 12/08/2010 07:16:30 PM
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Re: We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal
- 12/08/2010 08:21:32 PM
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Re: We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal
- 12/08/2010 08:32:41 PM
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Re: We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal
- 13/08/2010 06:51:45 AM
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I replied to the topic before you edited to ask all the extra questions
- 12/08/2010 12:08:27 PM
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- 12/08/2010 12:08:27 PM
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Both Bair and Sorilea knew
- 12/08/2010 10:33:59 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
- 12/08/2010 02:43:23 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
- 12/08/2010 05:42:00 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
- 12/08/2010 08:06:25 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
- 12/08/2010 08:20:44 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
- 12/08/2010 08:32:21 PM
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Who most wanted to get rid of Cadsuane BESIDES Rand?
- 12/08/2010 09:01:44 PM
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Can't be Sorilea
- 13/08/2010 11:50:53 AM
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Re: Can't be Sorilea
- 13/08/2010 08:46:02 PM
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Re: Can't be Sorilea
- 14/08/2010 12:00:40 AM
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Re: Can't be Sorilea
- 14/08/2010 12:34:18 AM
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Not necessarily, Sorilea still could have watched Cadsuane untie the weaves
- 15/08/2010 01:53:27 AM
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Re: Not necessarily, Sorilea still could have watched Cadsuane untie the weaves
- 15/08/2010 12:53:42 PM
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I think that Couladin was a dark friend.
- 13/08/2010 03:00:20 AM
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I'd be surprised, actually.
- 13/08/2010 05:34:13 AM
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Couladin and Asmodean
- 13/08/2010 08:33:38 AM
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Re: Couladin and Asmodean
- 13/08/2010 04:45:21 PM
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Couldin isn't intolerant. He's murderously xenophobic.
- 14/08/2010 05:45:15 PM
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Almost ALL of the Aiel were murderously Xenophobic before Rand united them. *NM*
- 15/08/2010 01:00:37 PM
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Noone betrayed 'Cadsuane'-That was just a happy side affect (for the DO)
- 15/08/2010 08:22:59 AM
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*Sigh* it is 2:20 AM so this is a double post. (You can ignore this one) *NM* *NM*
- 15/08/2010 08:23:49 AM
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