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Re: The missing Choeden Kal... malekithe Send a noteboard - 15/08/2010 07:47:40 AM
To me it looks like Sorilea did it because Cadsuane actually showed her the weaves for the 'alarm system warding' that she put around both & she showed it to Sorilea because even tho she didnt want to show it to anyone she had to maintain that 'trust' level with her.

We all know that Sorilea learns weaves instantly, and even if she wasnt strong enough to undo them, she could easily find someone who can.

So the questions are..

1) Do you think it WAS Sorilea? If not then who else had the motivation to frame Cadsuane and take none of the spoils for themselves?

2) If you think it was her, is she working for the Shadow or defending the Aiel against Cadsuane's influence?

3) How did she untie the weaves, and if she couldnt then who did she get to do it?

4) If she is working for the Shadow why would she allow Rand to get his hands back on the Choeden Kal and not hold on to it herself or get it to a Chosen?



It's still is funny how the CK was just 'missed'. It seems funny that Semhirage wouldn't want the DB on Rand AND have him hold onto the CK. With Rand having the CK and her in control of him she could have decided that she would (a la Lanfear) challenge the DO himself. If Elza retrieved the DB, why not take the CK too?

Something just does not add up. No Forsaken or BA would leave something so immensely powerful alone when it was sitting there right with the DB. At the very least Elza or Semhirage could have traded the CK to a male Forsaken for anything conceivable. It's like leaving a billion dollar check made out to 'cash'.

My only thought is that 'someone' took it before Elza got her hands on it. Maybe... Sorilea?
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Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK? malekithe - 12/08/2010 09:49:32 AM 1856 Views
it's been discussed a lot Deadsy - 12/08/2010 11:00:06 AM 1315 Views
Really? All the questions it poses? malekithe - 12/08/2010 11:06:11 AM 1105 Views
Havent seen this exact discussion before either.. *NM* malekithe - 12/08/2010 11:06:45 AM 430 Views
see my further reply =oP I'm 13% less of a jerkface than it looks *NM* Deadsy - 12/08/2010 12:10:28 PM 438 Views
Re: Really? All the questions it poses? NaClH2O - 12/08/2010 11:56:26 AM 1128 Views
not really darius_sedai - 12/08/2010 02:08:41 PM 1038 Views
Yep, pretty much. Otherwise he could have just nullified the Compulsions' lingering effect on Elza RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/08/2010 02:11:24 PM 958 Views
That's how I see it too darius_sedai - 12/08/2010 03:50:19 PM 922 Views
As demonstrated in TGS... Nameless Ashaman - 12/08/2010 05:27:21 PM 942 Views
We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal with that weave RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/08/2010 07:16:30 PM 929 Views
Re: We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal Datakim - 12/08/2010 08:21:32 PM 951 Views
Re: We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/08/2010 08:32:41 PM 944 Views
Re: We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal Ryan - 13/08/2010 06:51:45 AM 812 Views
I replied to the topic before you edited to ask all the extra questions Deadsy - 12/08/2010 12:08:27 PM 934 Views
Oh Deadsy newyorkersedai - 13/08/2010 05:18:32 AM 899 Views
Both Bair and Sorilea knew The Angry Druid - 12/08/2010 10:33:59 PM 945 Views
Fallacy of logic NaClH2O - 12/08/2010 10:58:49 PM 913 Views
Re: Fallacy of logic Datakim - 12/08/2010 11:07:19 PM 814 Views
Disagree NaClH2O - 13/08/2010 11:44:41 AM 937 Views
I think it was Sorilea. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/08/2010 02:09:28 PM 977 Views
Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK? Datakim - 12/08/2010 02:43:23 PM 1157 Views
Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK? malekithe - 12/08/2010 05:42:00 PM 1447 Views
Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK? Datakim - 12/08/2010 08:06:25 PM 1237 Views
Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK? malekithe - 12/08/2010 08:20:44 PM 947 Views
Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK? Datakim - 12/08/2010 08:32:21 PM 1051 Views
Who most wanted to get rid of Cadsuane BESIDES Rand? malekithe - 12/08/2010 09:01:44 PM 1077 Views
Re: Who most wanted to get rid of Cadsuane BESIDES Rand? Datakim - 12/08/2010 09:12:35 PM 855 Views
Cadsuane purposely framed, not a mistake malekithe - 12/08/2010 11:51:43 PM 1033 Views
Regarding Aiel DFs Nameless Ashaman - 12/08/2010 11:38:48 PM 969 Views
Can't be Sorilea NaClH2O - 13/08/2010 11:50:53 AM 874 Views
Re: Can't be Sorilea malekithe - 13/08/2010 08:46:02 PM 839 Views
Re: Can't be Sorilea NaClH2O - 14/08/2010 12:00:40 AM 881 Views
Re: Can't be Sorilea Datakim - 14/08/2010 12:34:18 AM 929 Views
Re: Can't be Sorilea NaClH2O - 14/08/2010 04:31:24 AM 914 Views
Oh yes.. Cadsuane was so so careful..NOT malekithe - 17/08/2010 06:42:49 AM 837 Views
Not necessarily, Sorilea still could have watched Cadsuane untie the weaves malekithe - 15/08/2010 01:53:27 AM 817 Views
Re: Not necessarily, Sorilea still could have watched Cadsuane untie the weaves NaClH2O - 15/08/2010 12:53:42 PM 754 Views
I think that Couladin was a dark friend. krassos - 13/08/2010 03:00:20 AM 1339 Views
I'd be surprised, actually. Gher - 13/08/2010 05:34:13 AM 857 Views
Couladin and Asmodean Nameless Ashaman - 13/08/2010 08:33:38 AM 907 Views
Re: Couladin and Asmodean Gher - 13/08/2010 04:45:21 PM 1067 Views
Re: Couladin and Asmodean krassos - 14/08/2010 05:49:00 PM 911 Views
Re: Couladin and Asmodean Gher - 17/08/2010 04:07:50 AM 810 Views
Couldin isn't intolerant. He's murderously xenophobic. krassos - 14/08/2010 05:45:15 PM 849 Views
Almost ALL of the Aiel were murderously Xenophobic before Rand united them. *NM* Lord Haart - 15/08/2010 01:00:37 PM 408 Views
If someone entered their land. krassos - 15/08/2010 02:28:31 PM 874 Views
Well yeah. Gher - 17/08/2010 03:55:15 AM 858 Views
Re: The missing Choeden Kal... malekithe - 15/08/2010 07:47:40 AM 835 Views
She could have been ordered to leave it there. Lord Haart - 15/08/2010 01:04:38 PM 794 Views
Noone betrayed 'Cadsuane'-That was just a happy side affect (for the DO) RabidWombat - 15/08/2010 08:22:59 AM 963 Views
*Sigh* it is 2:20 AM so this is a double post. (You can ignore this one) *NM* *NM* RabidWombat - 15/08/2010 08:23:49 AM 386 Views
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