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Ahh but Cadsuane didnt know Traveling malekithe Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 04:18:36 AM
And even if Moiraine has balefire and Cadsuane doesn't (and regardless of what she knows, I would concede that she would never use it, effectively eliminating it from her repertoire), so what? One weave means squat. Given all the other lethal weaves either woman can use, balefire is pretty much overkill. More important than having the most powerful gun is knowing how and when to use it. Given Cadsuane's ter'angreal, she'd spot Moiraine well before the other woman could think where to weave.

I don't think Moiraine holds a candle on Cadsuane (against any other AS, definitely Moiraine would wipe the floor, but Cadsuane is way above her weight class). I thought the topic was so ridiculous I didn't even bother to reply. I just took issue with Sidious's statement that Cadsuane knew Balefire. I seriously doubt it, that's all.

I think its more likely that Cadsuane knows balefire than unlikely. She's never shown a deficiency in any knowledge compared to another Aes Sedai, and her ability to invert makes her unique and means she's been exposed to hidden knowledge. No AS seems to know more than Cadsuane about saidar, and therefore if Moiraine knows balefire, then I find it likely that Cadsuane took some trouble to find out about it at some stage. The story implies that she's the oracle of the Aes Sedai. Nynaeve is very happy that Cadsuane doesn't know the function of some of her ter'angreal which implies that the woman has an irritating knack about knowing everything (in the Tower of course... the Aiel, Forsaken etc know things she doesn't).

However, if you want to go on proof alone, there's no proof either way. My experiences of Cadsuane make me bet that she knows its weave.



And Traveling is far, far less of a forbidden weave. In fact it isn't forbidden at all. So If Cadsuane couldnt ever unearth Travelling there's no reason to believe she unearthed Balefire. Also seeing as how Cadsuane was always extremely powerful she probably never thought she'd need it. On the other hand, Moiraine was on a mission, she knew she would have to find the Dragon Reborn and save the world. That would motivate her sufficiently to find something that was lost and forbidden.

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Moiraine VERSUS Cadsuane malekithe - 15/08/2010 03:45:21 AM 1308 Views
Re: Moiraine VERSUS Cadsuane malekithe - 15/08/2010 03:47:37 AM 715 Views
Moiraine. I think she'd put more into the fight. LadyLorraine - 15/08/2010 04:51:04 AM 679 Views
Re: Moiraine. I think she'd put more into the fight. Ryan - 15/08/2010 05:18:48 AM 694 Views
see, i suppose it's just me... LadyLorraine - 15/08/2010 03:16:22 PM 594 Views
Which is more powerful? I don't recall. But if neither had ter'angreal I'd pick Moiraine (barely) *NM* Deadsy - 15/08/2010 05:20:51 AM 286 Views
Re: Which is more powerful? I don't recall. But if neither had ter'angreal I'd pick Moiraine rempires - 15/08/2010 06:33:47 AM 700 Views
Re: Which is more powerful? I don't recall. But if neither had ter'angreal I'd pick Moiraine Lord Haart - 15/08/2010 12:47:55 PM 619 Views
During New Spring, though, Moiraine was still relatively weak LadyLorraine - 15/08/2010 03:18:07 PM 625 Views
I read that as "uber-sized" and pictured Moiraine towering above Caemlyn Deadsy - 15/08/2010 03:29:45 PM 651 Views
omigod that's so awesome. *NM* LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 02:19:33 AM 258 Views
I just laughed out loud at work. *NM* lyringlas - 16/08/2010 04:23:54 PM 282 Views
On paper, Caddy wins, but... Nameless Ashaman - 15/08/2010 07:04:11 AM 685 Views
Re: On paper, Caddy wins, but... malekithe - 15/08/2010 07:14:26 AM 701 Views
Re: On paper, Caddy wins, but... Watcher - 15/08/2010 03:36:43 PM 650 Views
Yes, Moiraine has experience killing arrogant channelers who are more powerful than her. BlackAdder - 15/08/2010 05:24:46 PM 640 Views
Cadsuane obviously Sidious - 15/08/2010 08:18:00 PM 661 Views
Do they? fionwe1987 - 15/08/2010 09:18:53 PM 660 Views
Re: Do they? Sidious - 15/08/2010 09:37:34 PM 649 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 15/08/2010 10:09:37 PM 649 Views
Not that I have proof but... everynametaken - 16/08/2010 03:30:49 AM 641 Views
Yes *NM* Sidious - 16/08/2010 05:23:08 AM 250 Views
Not at all! fionwe1987 - 16/08/2010 07:55:49 AM 615 Views
She wouldn't do it because of the dangers and she sees it as evil. Not for Tower motives. Cannoli - 16/08/2010 12:30:55 PM 602 Views
Why is this directed at me? fionwe1987 - 17/08/2010 07:04:10 AM 530 Views
Re: Why is this directed at me? Sidious - 17/08/2010 12:48:17 PM 576 Views
Inverting... fionwe1987 - 17/08/2010 05:03:06 PM 573 Views
Ahh but Cadsuane didnt know Traveling malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:18:36 AM 714 Views
they also had the rod ter'angreal and knew that it produced Balefire. darius_sedai - 17/08/2010 05:05:24 AM 607 Views
Cadsuane has no problems breaking rules when it suits her. Look at all the goodies she has. everynametaken - 26/08/2010 01:55:03 AM 588 Views
Stilled? Gher - 16/08/2010 06:27:27 AM 596 Views
Re: Stilled? Lord Haart - 16/08/2010 08:47:22 AM 599 Views
Re: Stilled? Sidious - 16/08/2010 01:38:08 PM 618 Views
Yes Cannoli - 16/08/2010 12:24:52 PM 632 Views
No Contest... scooter - 15/08/2010 08:50:20 PM 659 Views
And with those ter'angreal, how could she NOT see her coming? *NM* Cannoli - 16/08/2010 12:31:53 PM 245 Views
hmmm, i don't know that much about the ter'angreal... LadyLorraine - 16/08/2010 06:38:39 PM 565 Views
Cadsuane is the stronger channeler The Angry Druid - 17/08/2010 12:15:31 AM 580 Views
This is stupid... fionwe1987 - 17/08/2010 07:06:13 AM 665 Views
Maybe Moiraine isn't Oath bound anymore Sidious - 17/08/2010 12:52:09 PM 568 Views
Even with the Oath she could still attack Cadsuane malekithe - 17/08/2010 10:29:43 PM 569 Views
Re: Even with the Oath she could still attack Cadsuane Evil_Monkey - 27/08/2010 12:02:22 AM 639 Views
Re: Even with the Oath she could still attack Cadsuane malekithe - 27/08/2010 04:01:44 AM 600 Views
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