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Perrin is Ilmarinen, Rand is Väinämöinen and Mat is Joukahainen Lordling Send a noteboard - 05/09/2010 11:47:48 AM
The names are very easy to pronounce even though they look long and un-English.

Anyway, Seppo Ilmarinen is the godly smith who created, among other things, the skies. He molds himself a wife out of gold, but that turns out to be a mistake. Perhaps Perrin will realize that Faile was a mistake, too?

Väinämöinen is the magical hero/wise man who never has any luck with women.

Joukahainen is an arrogant guy who tries to kill Väinämöinen. Actually, Lemminkäinen (a handsome red-haired man who loves women and war) would fit Mat much better, but the first three guys all have the same mother, so they sort of go together. Lemminkäinen marries the daughter of the ruler of the Finnish pagan underworld.


Those characters are from Kalevala, they aren't present in Finnish paganism.
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Re: I can't think of any mythological trio of masculine types... - 05/09/2010 01:22:33 AM 681 Views
Hmm, that kind of works...although Rand is a horrid Wizard - 05/09/2010 02:12:41 AM 666 Views
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well sorry I misunderstood then - 06/09/2010 12:14:13 AM 560 Views
You have the mythology wrong, was my main point. - 06/09/2010 01:07:01 AM 565 Views
Take a look at Nordic Mythos - 05/09/2010 05:41:08 AM 635 Views
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Re: Take a look at Nordic Mythos - 05/09/2010 07:18:22 AM 549 Views
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Perrin is Ilmarinen, Rand is Väinämöinen and Mat is Joukahainen - 05/09/2010 11:47:48 AM 621 Views
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norse mythology is the closest *NM* - 07/09/2010 11:29:24 PM 268 Views
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The triad that corresponds very loosely to the Goddess triad - 08/09/2010 03:41:50 AM 650 Views

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