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When exactly have I ever given someone else a pass for "necessary actions" I blamed Egwene for? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 14/09/2010 02:08:29 AM

But it seems when Egwene must do things other rulers do she's a douche bag.

We just need to face the fact that for some reason, this fictional character has so offended Cannoli that he will gladly twist any of her actions into something with evil intent, or a sign of great stupidity.

And his two fall backs for when textual evidence is plainly contradicting his interpretations are:

1) PoV trap: This really means that Cannoli's interpretation matters, not Egwene's own thoughts when it comes to deciding motives. Apparently, her PoV is unreliable enough that we cannot trust what she thinks in the privacy of her mind. But everyone else has can be believed and extensively quoted.

2) No prophesy: There is no prophesy saying that Egwene has to save the White Tower. Hence, while certain actions can be forgiven in Rand's case (since he is the prophesied savior), the same actions from Egwene are EEEEEEVIL. Essentially, if you work towards a cause without having prophesy to back you up, you're held up to a higher moral standard.

That's it. The rest is just window dressing. I'm sure we'll have a tedious post from him detailing some different ways he argues against Egwene, but I can guarantee that most will come down to these two in the end.

Arguing with him is thus completely pointless. No one who's being reasonable will agree with the points I mentioned above. But Cannoli is convinced they are some kind of great logic. Given the huge disconnect, arguments usually descend to Cannoli correcting grammar, calling into question the knowledge and intelligence of the poster, and so on. I'm sure he would cheerfully argue with RJ as well, even if RJ had pointed out that Egwene is not written that way at all.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
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Revised for accurracy, improved characterization and humor - 06/09/2010 12:57:35 AM 1448 Views
the humor here is that you think you understand accurracy, improvement, characterization or humor! *NM* - 06/09/2010 01:56:57 AM 587 Views
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all of you are most correct! - 11/09/2010 07:53:44 PM 1023 Views
When exactly have I ever given someone else a pass for "necessary actions" I blamed Egwene for? - 14/09/2010 02:08:29 AM 1225 Views
A few days back... - 14/09/2010 04:03:41 AM 1103 Views
Yes, those are completely different scenarios. - 14/09/2010 05:36:30 AM 1538 Views
Misinterpretations... - 14/09/2010 07:26:11 AM 994 Views
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Read his replies in this thread... - 17/09/2010 06:48:20 AM 1090 Views
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Double Post. See below. *NM* - 14/09/2010 04:03:55 AM 627 Views
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lol *NM* - 06/09/2010 02:46:23 PM 558 Views
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no argument there! *NM* - 09/09/2010 05:08:25 AM 343 Views
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This post was funny. Your responders are largely idiots who need a sense of humor. *NM* - 08/09/2010 03:56:07 AM 726 Views
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Hee. <3 *NM* - 09/09/2010 10:14:55 PM 632 Views
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