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Re: My Review - MAJOR SPOILERS urizen Send a noteboard - 30/10/2010 10:22:38 PM
It's unfair because the WF/WO's appreantices wont learn anything that really benefits their people. What they will be thaught is the Aes Sedai way of doing things i.e lying, scheming, backstabbing powermongering keep everybody weak and stupid so they can't challange us way.


The Aes Sedai are manipulative, sure...as are the Wise Ones. There are several discussions about the best ways to manipulate chiefs into doing what the Wise Ones want them to do. They spy on the chief's dreams, and if that isn't invasive, I don't know what is. Yes, they are doing this in an attempt to help their people, but so do the Aes Sedai, by and large. We have seen a lot of examples of stupid or outright evil aes sedai(though we have those from the Wise Ones too, in the form of the Shaido Wise Ones), but for the most part, they are doing their best to help the world.

Sometimes they make a mess of it, but each ajah is focused on doing what they believe is best to help the world (except for the White. I thought for a while that their role would be to reason out the critical peice of how to seal the DO up for good, but its looking like they are just useless. Harid Fel and Min are working out in a couple months answers that the White should have spent 3000 years working on, but apparently has not).

It's not about knowing X number of weaves but rather how you use them. The Wise Ones and Windfinders work with and for their people while the Aes Sedai do nothing for the world.


Yes, the Wise Ones are more obvious in working for their people. There are a lot more of them versus the number of people, so it is easier for them to stay directly involved in their people's lives. The Aes Sedai have also managed to make themselves feared, rather than respected, which came from what was a series of stupid moves on their part, as well as some things out of their control. Still, it makes it harder for the Aes Sedai to really be involved in the way the Wise Ones are.

Hopefully Egwene will be able to begin repairing this situation.



No, the Aes Sedai don't. They are in it for their own power. They might be spouting some vague platitudes about doing it for the world but their deeds puts the lie to their words. Inevitably what's "good" for the world always centers on Aes Sedai grabbing more and more power.
A good exemple is the green Ajah, who's supposedly the Battle Ajah, honing their skills in order to combat the Dreadloards led trolloc hoards. If they truly cared they would be keeping a skelton crew in the White Tower, To sit in the Hall, recruit potential Accepted etc. while the major part of the Ajah would be stationed in the Boarderlands repelling raids and perhaps even push back the Blightborder. Yet what are they actually doing? Most hang around the Tower f****ng around with whatever hot male or female happens be around. In each and every situation they have come up short when forced into a combat situation.

Granted I have not read ToM but hoping Egwene will change things is futile as everything she says and do centers around getting the Status quo back i.e Aes Sedai on top, then nothing, more nothing, some more nothing and finally the rest of the subhumans
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