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Translation: Good point, I don't know what to say, so I''ll just say "blah blah blah" Mik Send a noteboard - 04/11/2010 08:14:11 AM
Notice the number of people who think Egwene was irrational to oppose Rand's plan to break the seals? They probably blanked out the dream she had, and the significance of its arrival just as Rand entered Tar Valon.


That's why I completely ignore anything Canolli or several others write at these stages of book release ... long winded rationale of how Egwene is stupid and possibly the DO in the flesh aren't worth my energy ... this one had me truly stumped though! How anyone can blame Egwene for a decision Nynaeve made for herself is beyond me!


Because Egwene all but directly threatened her and Elayne with "Tower justice" if they persisted in claiming the status she granted them. Her words to them are exactly as bad as the crime of demoting sisters for which she excoriates Elaida. Egwene granted them the shawl. She did not make it conditional on the Oath Rod or anything like that, and while she may not have made an overt statement of this, her mindset at the time was opposed to the Three Oaths. To later demand they fulfill a condition to retain that status is every bit as wrong as Elaida's assumption of the right to revoke said status as she pleases, and a violation of the exact same principle.

And as for the ad hominem attacks, I do not even really make an issue of this or agree with the original poster blaming that on Egwene. It was all Nynaeve's doing anyway. Nynaeve is great on the actions, but can be kind of short-sighted and not too clear on the fine points of principles.

I hold out hope that Elayne's refusal will in some way lead to the eradication of the Oaths or at least the Oath Rod.
Mik ~ Ishamaels halfmad 'brother'

Death dances in my footsteps....
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Want to slap Egwene *minor spoliers* - 03/11/2010 07:30:06 AM 1542 Views
Why should she not? *NM* - 03/11/2010 01:16:54 PM 279 Views
It's Nynaeve's choice. As Egwene said, anyone who wants to call themselves Aes Sedai must swear. *NM* - 03/11/2010 01:28:27 PM 407 Views
Honestly why would it be Egwene who should be slapped? - 03/11/2010 02:53:09 PM 854 Views
Its the usual Darius... - 03/11/2010 03:46:06 PM 698 Views
*sighs* - 03/11/2010 03:54:38 PM 675 Views
Re: *sighs* - 03/11/2010 05:12:05 PM 628 Views
she actually must have used TAR to influence Nynaeve in some way - 03/11/2010 10:07:19 PM 687 Views
LOL *NM* - 04/11/2010 04:19:09 AM 571 Views
Yes, what DID the woman who refused to even entertain discussion of ditching the Oath have to do? - 03/11/2010 07:48:39 PM 778 Views
Blah blah blah ... Not worth the energy to read - 04/11/2010 04:54:16 AM 574 Views
Translation: Good point, I don't know what to say, so I''ll just say "blah blah blah" - 04/11/2010 08:14:11 AM 695 Views
If you were bright enough to argue with I'd make the effort ... - 04/11/2010 02:40:31 PM 656 Views
Did she -in all her grandness and wisdom- mention that Dream to Rand? - 03/11/2010 04:25:28 PM 679 Views
To answer your question, no, she didn't tell him about her dream. *NM* - 03/11/2010 06:01:36 PM 274 Views
Funny how Eggy -in Fionwe's own words- 'blanked' out her own Dream then! - 03/11/2010 06:54:19 PM 692 Views
Rand/Egwene *spoilers* - 03/11/2010 08:55:33 PM 607 Views
You may want to actually read the book... - 03/11/2010 11:06:48 PM 604 Views
Re: You may want to actually read the book... - 04/11/2010 02:43:45 AM 730 Views
Huh? - 04/11/2010 03:11:05 AM 616 Views
You might want to make some sense. - 04/11/2010 07:48:51 AM 690 Views
- 04/11/2010 02:03:54 PM 608 Views
Indeed - 03/11/2010 05:11:06 PM 669 Views
Sigh..... - 03/11/2010 06:14:20 PM 810 Views
Sir, you really must overcome your resentment of strong women. *NM* - 03/11/2010 07:41:20 PM 296 Views
Indeed. Those strong women just bind me up....like cheese. *NM* - 04/11/2010 02:34:23 AM 447 Views
What's with all the tangential thinking? *NM* - 04/11/2010 04:23:12 AM 264 Views
Re: Its the usual Darius... - 04/11/2010 02:44:24 PM 646 Views
Since you spared the insults - 04/11/2010 08:16:43 AM 608 Views
agreed.. - 03/11/2010 06:19:47 PM 581 Views
Woah woah woah! - 04/11/2010 02:16:13 AM 668 Views
Re: Woah woah woah! *NM* - 04/11/2010 03:51:03 PM 268 Views

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