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Uh-huh. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 14/11/2010 03:51:49 AM
Elayne composed herself and sat. "I cannot allow this. The Houses are all looking for opportunities to shoulder their way into power."
"You would be doing the same in their place, I warrant," Dyelin said.
"Not if I knew the Last Battle was approaching," Elayne snapped. "We need to do something to direct the nobles toward more important matters. Something to unify them behind me, or at least convince them that I'm not to be toyed with."
"And you have a means of achieving this" Dyelin asked.
"Yes," Elayne said, glancing eastward. "It's time to seize Cairhien."
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"The world needs unity," Elayne said, standing. "With Cairhien I begin knitting us all together. Rand already controls Illian and Tear, and has bonds to the Aiel. We're all connected."
An Unexpected Letter, Towers of Midnight


Those ellipses all represent a paragraph, or so I assume I should call them even though one is as short as "Oh". Now, this happens in most cases in Elayne's chapters, she finds something she can do for her or Andor's prosperity, and then, much later, rationalises it as being good for the Last Battle. However, I chose this specific example because it also illustrates a few more things.

First, you like to claim that the conquest of Cairhien was for the good of fighting the Last Battle. As you can see above, it was not. Elayne wanted Cairhien to keep her vassals' minds off the fragility of her rule. She admits this.

Second, the initial point of my thread. In one breath, Elayne complains about her vassal nobles attempting power grabs in the face of Tarmon Gai'don. In the next, she expresses her solution to this problem: make a power grab in the face of Tarmon Gai'don.

Third, you claim that adding Cairhien to the Andoran empire is great because it will allow them to fight more efficiently in the Last Battle. Forgetting everything else about that, it therefore makes sense that she would also want to join with other nations to form an even greater united empire, wouldn't it? And yet, at the very end of that chapter Elayne thinks that "she didn't intend to see Andor become merely another part of the Dragon's empire." So if you were correct, doesn't this display her arrogance and pride and desire for power that she is un willing to join Andor to this empire that would so improve their ability at the Last Battle?

That was a rhetorical question, incidentally. Don't expect a reply on my part, there are plenty of people on this site who feel that they can substitute facts and rational thought for personal insults, and I don't really see the interest or value in continuing this conversation.
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So about the nobility. - 09/11/2010 06:53:34 AM 1458 Views
Thank you. I couldn't put a finger on why that bothered me. - 09/11/2010 08:27:26 AM 1047 Views
Re: Thank you. I couldn't put a finger on why that bothered me. - 09/11/2010 06:56:35 PM 964 Views
that is how suicidial thoughts are usually formed in RL *NM* - 11/11/2010 06:03:21 PM 437 Views
I don't have any problems with this - they are trying to get more power to survive. - 09/11/2010 04:08:22 PM 1116 Views
If that power is needed to survive, how will those she takes it from survive? - 09/11/2010 09:23:15 PM 1043 Views
I disagree - 09/11/2010 07:28:39 PM 974 Views
Re: I disagree - 09/11/2010 08:26:12 PM 926 Views
Re: I disagree - 09/11/2010 09:29:11 PM 1042 Views
Re: I disagree - 10/11/2010 12:30:33 AM 1014 Views
Re: I disagree - 10/11/2010 01:07:19 AM 1032 Views
Yes, of course... - 10/11/2010 01:36:30 AM 1015 Views
If you can stay on subject, yes. - 10/11/2010 03:22:49 AM 1146 Views
Re: If you can stay on subject, yes. - 12/11/2010 10:56:44 AM 999 Views
Re: If you can stay on subject, yes. - 14/11/2010 03:13:07 AM 892 Views
*Scratches head* - 09/11/2010 10:59:29 PM 1077 Views
Re: *Scratches head* - 09/11/2010 11:50:00 PM 1128 Views
Damn... - 10/11/2010 01:27:28 AM 934 Views
Re: Damn... - 10/11/2010 04:38:23 AM 935 Views
Ridiculous - 12/11/2010 07:20:13 AM 1047 Views
Uh-huh. - 14/11/2010 03:51:49 AM 993 Views
Re: Damn... - 12/11/2010 11:05:52 AM 984 Views
You make a valid point. - 14/11/2010 02:53:46 AM 1207 Views
Re: So about the nobility. - 10/11/2010 05:28:50 PM 958 Views

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