The Elaidas and Sevannahs of this world just won't go away. Where're the Seanchan when you need 'em? *NM*
fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 23/11/2010 08:23:01 PM
My opinions are as valid as anyone else's. I can be non-critical if someone asks a simple point regarding chronology in WoT. However, if someone starts asking questions about character motivation, pacing, story development or literary value, of course I'm going to be critical.
Even within genre, the story is very formulaic and the character motivations unfounded. Note that if you were to apply my experiment ("try writing down what any major character's motivations are and see if you can relate to them - in most cases you won't be able to") to other authors in the genre, such as Martin, you will get satisfactory answers. The guy can't finish a book for over four years (a book that was "almost done" by his own admission!), but he at least writes believable characters.
So no, I don't see the need to avoid trashing WoT when appropriate. I am glad that I found out who killed Asmodean. I am slightly interested to find out what Demandred's been up to. I have low expectations for the last book but I will buy it nonetheless because I am going to see the series to its "bitter conclusion" as Larry stated in his review.
One thing I will NOT do, that others do here, is trash Sanderson. I think he's doing the best with what he's been given. The pacing is not his choice - the staccato series of events after books of glacial development reflects Jordan's failure to advance the plot. The formulaic nature of the series was set in stone long before he started. Proper character development is not really an option this late in the series.
Oh, and by the way, I would never eat hot dogs for Thanksgiving. We're having filet mignon, roasted potatoes, tiramisu and some nice aperitifs, which is a proper way to have a nice dinner. My comment about hot dogs was with respect to outdoor grilling events, and even then I only like Hebrew National or Boar's Head.
Even within genre, the story is very formulaic and the character motivations unfounded. Note that if you were to apply my experiment ("try writing down what any major character's motivations are and see if you can relate to them - in most cases you won't be able to") to other authors in the genre, such as Martin, you will get satisfactory answers. The guy can't finish a book for over four years (a book that was "almost done" by his own admission!), but he at least writes believable characters.
So no, I don't see the need to avoid trashing WoT when appropriate. I am glad that I found out who killed Asmodean. I am slightly interested to find out what Demandred's been up to. I have low expectations for the last book but I will buy it nonetheless because I am going to see the series to its "bitter conclusion" as Larry stated in his review.
One thing I will NOT do, that others do here, is trash Sanderson. I think he's doing the best with what he's been given. The pacing is not his choice - the staccato series of events after books of glacial development reflects Jordan's failure to advance the plot. The formulaic nature of the series was set in stone long before he started. Proper character development is not really an option this late in the series.
Oh, and by the way, I would never eat hot dogs for Thanksgiving. We're having filet mignon, roasted potatoes, tiramisu and some nice aperitifs, which is a proper way to have a nice dinner. My comment about hot dogs was with respect to outdoor grilling events, and even then I only like Hebrew National or Boar's Head.
Gawyn's reaction regarding Elayne being knocked up by Rand
- 21/11/2010 10:44:42 AM
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he couldn't do much in front of Elayne. The Morgase reunions annoyed me a lot more...
- 21/11/2010 11:10:35 AM
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It was an Egwene chapter. Be glad she even noticed it was happening if it doesn't bring her power *NM*
- 22/11/2010 01:48:38 PM
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The less you attempt to understand the characters in WoT, the better off you are.
- 21/11/2010 08:22:30 PM
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<----CMB and BMB are that way.
- 22/11/2010 03:10:48 PM
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Deal with it. I'm not going anywhere.
- 23/11/2010 08:10:59 PM
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- 23/11/2010 08:10:59 PM
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The Elaidas and Sevannahs of this world just won't go away. Where're the Seanchan when you need 'em? *NM*
- 23/11/2010 08:23:01 PM
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You're an idiot. *NM*
- 23/11/2010 09:55:25 PM
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You prove my point.
- 24/11/2010 01:57:05 AM
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Of course it's formulaic: It's a genre book to a large extent ABOUT the genre.
- 23/11/2010 08:49:56 PM
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You're misrepresenting this site and my position.
- 23/11/2010 09:54:04 PM
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- 23/11/2010 09:54:04 PM
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I hear a lot of that, but I think you may be mistaking Jordans motives, too.
- 24/11/2010 12:49:53 AM
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Jordan only mentioned finishing in one more book once he knew he was dying.
- 24/11/2010 02:25:01 AM
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Jordan mentioned finishing in one when he reached the one with which he meant to finish.
- 24/11/2010 03:55:42 PM
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Re: The less you attempt to understand the characters in WoT, the better off you are.
- 26/11/2010 09:41:04 AM
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Yes, it would have been nice if Gawyn took a sword to Elayne's baby bump. A shame indeed.
*NM*
- 22/11/2010 04:45:15 AM
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*NM*
- 22/11/2010 04:45:15 AM
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That would have been much more entertaining than his monologue. *NM*
- 22/11/2010 08:47:15 AM
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I was much more amused by Nynaeve's reaction
- 22/11/2010 05:06:54 AM
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