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Re: War and Peace was very thematic Lo'oris Send a noteboard - 30/11/2010 09:35:50 AM
But the point is that if you have trouble suspending disbelief because people do not suffer enough, or act strangely, or get supernatural assistance, or whatnot, the fault is generally yours and not that of the author. You can believe anything if you try.


This is not true in general.
If the story is badly written, lacking coherence or making no sense, suspension of disbelief just dies.
That's not the case here, I'm just nitpicking saying that it is the case somewhere.
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Io iudico bene questo: che sia meglio essere impetuoso che respettivo, perché la fortuna è donna ed è necessario, volendola tenere sotto, batterla e urtarla.
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Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... Shannow - 28/11/2010 03:38:14 PM 2781 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... Lo'oris - 28/11/2010 04:05:48 PM 1446 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... moratcorlm - 29/11/2010 12:27:27 AM 1359 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... Lo'oris - 29/11/2010 12:36:49 AM 1342 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... moratcorlm - 29/11/2010 01:59:18 AM 1365 Views
Yes, she still lets herself be ruled by her desire to control everything Lord Haart - 29/11/2010 02:39:34 AM 1325 Views
I vote it has come to pass Comet Sedai - 29/11/2010 02:48:26 AM 1189 Views
*facepalm* - good point, not sure how I missed that. *NM* Lord Haart - 29/11/2010 03:12:00 AM 726 Views
Re: I vote it has come to pass Lo'oris - 29/11/2010 09:42:51 AM 1187 Views
Prophecy never said she would be angry at the time, Lord Haart - 29/11/2010 11:36:53 AM 1258 Views
lol true, gg *NM* Lo'oris - 29/11/2010 11:52:54 AM 700 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... lodlom - 28/11/2010 04:43:46 PM 1374 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... Lo'oris - 28/11/2010 04:49:23 PM 1306 Views
Aviendha's vision doesn't automatically mean the Light will win Ava - 28/11/2010 05:32:56 PM 1605 Views
She doesn't even see that. The arches just show a possibility. LadyLorraine - 29/11/2010 07:12:05 PM 1140 Views
Indeed Sidious - 28/11/2010 06:16:41 PM 1257 Views
am i the only one who acknowledges that it's a jerk deal for jerks newyorkersedai - 28/11/2010 08:00:23 PM 1464 Views
i think most people feel that way Sidious - 29/11/2010 09:06:44 AM 1291 Views
I agree with you darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 05:13:38 PM 1084 Views
Re: am i the only one who acknowledges that it's a jerk deal for jerks RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/11/2010 06:40:18 PM 1222 Views
And in the interest of fairness, SH should've been all up in Osangar's intimate business newyorkersedai - 29/11/2010 11:34:21 PM 1264 Views
Agreed. The series is formulaic and predictable, and even I expected a few more twists. Tom - 28/11/2010 07:47:10 PM 1335 Views
Good reading for adrenaline junkies, maybe. *NM* moratcorlm - 29/11/2010 12:32:53 AM 754 Views
I'm sure that all the men Ituralde lost would agree with you about it being a breeze -_- Lord Haart - 29/11/2010 12:32:56 AM 1218 Views
Byar was compulsed Comet Sedai - 29/11/2010 12:46:01 AM 1540 Views
I agree that he was part of Graendal's plan, but Lord Haart - 29/11/2010 02:16:45 AM 1173 Views
Re: I agree that he was part of Graendal's plan, but Lo'oris - 29/11/2010 09:44:05 AM 1146 Views
Re: Byar was compulsed Vidarfe - 29/11/2010 12:54:38 PM 1483 Views
Re: Byar was compulsed Lo'oris - 29/11/2010 12:59:31 PM 1201 Views
Re: Byar was compulsed Vidarfe - 29/11/2010 01:10:18 PM 1224 Views
He disbelieves in the Heroes guttering flame - 29/11/2010 03:33:27 PM 1172 Views
I think that's his mind deceiving itself LadyLorraine - 29/11/2010 07:19:05 PM 1227 Views
I didn't say he was necessarily Compulsed guttering flame - 30/11/2010 07:40:51 AM 1136 Views
Do we have his reaction to the Heroes themselves? LadyLorraine - 30/11/2010 11:55:42 AM 1253 Views
Re: Do we have his reaction to the Heroes themselves? guttering flame - 30/11/2010 12:05:44 PM 1114 Views
he makes no mention of the Heroes. LadyLorraine - 30/11/2010 10:42:13 PM 1229 Views
They did get another thing right Fox and Ravens - 29/11/2010 12:40:52 AM 1220 Views
Not Mat's fault, really - Verin didn't rehash her opinion of him. Lord Haart - 29/11/2010 02:18:17 AM 1180 Views
It's the WOT Red Shirt syndrome ajfurst - 29/11/2010 04:29:12 AM 1308 Views
I don't want everyone to win and end up happily ever after though. moratcorlm - 29/11/2010 04:33:06 AM 1203 Views
The disney ending is not realistic - or at least not as believable ajfurst - 29/11/2010 04:41:04 AM 1327 Views
Re: The disney ending is not realistic - or at least not as believable Lo'oris - 29/11/2010 09:50:26 AM 1310 Views
You, good sir, are Team Aan'allein - 30/11/2010 06:53:49 PM 1113 Views
I also think Lan will be saved right before the end. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/11/2010 06:50:34 PM 1086 Views
Re: I also think Lan will be saved right before the end. Itachi - 30/11/2010 01:47:27 AM 1218 Views
It's a well told story with fun characters overall, but it's definitely not "War & Peace" RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/11/2010 06:33:12 PM 1318 Views
+1 *NM* Tom - 29/11/2010 07:18:13 PM 655 Views
it is. I love it anyways, though LadyLorraine - 29/11/2010 07:23:24 PM 1118 Views
War and Peace was very thematic moratcorlm - 30/11/2010 05:00:30 AM 1547 Views
Doublethink for the win! *NM* guttering flame - 30/11/2010 07:35:20 AM 684 Views
Re: War and Peace was very thematic Lo'oris - 30/11/2010 09:35:50 AM 1175 Views
I'm not really sure if or why any reader would need to suspend disbelief to enjoy WoT RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/11/2010 10:31:49 PM 1163 Views
I've always thought of this series (and fantasy in general) are a bit like Aesop's Fables LadyLorraine - 30/11/2010 10:44:09 PM 1101 Views
Please tell me what drugs you're on Tom - 01/12/2010 04:04:39 AM 1265 Views
It's called 'reality' - I agree with LadyLorraine & Moratcorlm RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/12/2010 07:57:35 PM 1179 Views
You are absolutely wrong. Tom - 02/12/2010 04:53:52 AM 1148 Views
You are incorrect - you should read the definition you reference before posting it. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/12/2010 04:19:16 PM 1266 Views
No, I read the ENTIRE article, unlike you. You have to scroll down a bit. Tom - 02/12/2010 05:47:13 PM 1070 Views
No, you need to read and comprehend. That was a THEORY. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/12/2010 07:11:01 PM 982 Views
It's really very simple. Tom - 04/12/2010 12:31:16 AM 1288 Views
mk, I think I understand more what you meant now after reading this exchange LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 05:42:47 AM 1192 Views
I still don't agree; sorry. I don't think this theory applies to everyone. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/12/2010 05:30:41 PM 1285 Views
No, those are disbeliefs that you must suspend. LadyLorraine - 01/12/2010 08:18:25 PM 1089 Views
You have to feel the characters are somehow believable to empathize with them. Tom - 02/12/2010 01:05:29 AM 1132 Views
I don't see how WoT's writing (Before, or now) prevents that LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 04:12:54 AM 996 Views
I'm not arguing that it necessarily does for everyone, just that YOU HAVE TO SUSPEND DISBELIEF Tom - 02/12/2010 04:48:51 AM 1185 Views
That's a load of crap... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2010 06:03:13 AM 1325 Views
Sure moratcorlm - 01/12/2010 01:30:03 AM 1113 Views
Black Tower Itachi - 30/11/2010 01:50:29 AM 1099 Views
Re: Black Tower RAAM - 30/11/2010 01:57:48 AM 1233 Views
No, the worst case scenario is that the entire tower becomes 13+13'd and fights for the Shadow Lord Haart - 30/11/2010 04:03:07 AM 1052 Views
I agree with everything. Avendesora - 30/11/2010 01:37:11 PM 1395 Views
Hopper's death... oh god... saangrealsmoker - 01/12/2010 01:00:12 AM 1343 Views
while i miss hopper RAAM - 02/12/2010 04:19:28 AM 1133 Views
Re: while i miss hopper saangrealsmoker - 02/12/2010 05:30:52 PM 1238 Views
Hopper wasn't that important, either, though. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/12/2010 02:32:10 PM 1046 Views
Re: Hopper wasn't that important, either, though. Lo'oris - 03/12/2010 03:10:54 PM 1089 Views
It would be awesome if it were, though. BlackAdder - 03/12/2010 04:41:42 PM 1216 Views
Re: It would be awesome if it were, though. saangrealsmoker - 04/12/2010 09:54:09 PM 1195 Views
Hopper Aes Sedai - 05/12/2010 07:07:44 AM 1055 Views
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