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The "GASP Moment" that produced so much speculation leading up to KoD Joel Send a noteboard - 01/12/2010 03:13:56 PM
That was in the series? And someone called it "heartbreaking"?

And was significant only in how underwhelming it was. We were supposed to be shocked at an entire nation committing ritual suicide by first poisoning all their children and then themselves all in response to fulfillment of a prophecy connected with the Last Battle (that the shining Choedan Kal in Tremalking portended the end of the World of Illusions). We were supposed to be horrified that they were HAPPY about it (it was set up as a big fake out when the smiling idiot in the CoT Epilogue runs off to tell his fellow cultists the "good" news about the statue). The Sea Folk were traumatized to the point it disrupted a diplomatic meeting with Rands emissaries, IIRC, but they had an advantage readers lacked: They'd actually ENCOUNTERED the Amayar for more than five seconds. Jordan didn't take into account the fact that it's hard for most people to get worked up about genocide in a world we know is fictional to begin and that affects a race to which none of us has even had the chance to form any attachment anyway. When Aviendhas visions in ToM raise the prospect of wiping out the Aiel I actually care a little bit because I "know" the Aiel, individually and as a culture. Telling me the Amayar murdered their own children then killed themselves matters about as much to me as telling me the same thing about the Sharans would.

It wouldn't be a big deal if it hadn't been built up as the GASP Moment that generated so much speculation in the months before KoDs release and left most of us still searching for it even after finishing the book. Big 'splosions are well and good (though we don't even see the Amayar on screen when they're dying; a Windfinder tells us later) but if I tried to tell my mom why Moiraines rescue was a big deal she wouldn't care even after I explained it.
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So...what was this "heartbreaking scene" with Olver in ToM? - 01/12/2010 04:12:34 AM 2180 Views
yah he started kinda cute, now he's just kinda annoying. *NM* - 01/12/2010 04:21:42 AM 448 Views
My point exactly. His maudlin backstory is just stupid. *NM* - 01/12/2010 02:14:00 PM 455 Views
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Almost?! Angered :p *NM* - 01/12/2010 06:26:50 AM 408 Views
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olver is upset you feel that way. olver just wants to be able to kill the shaido that took his dad - 01/12/2010 07:33:43 AM 1077 Views
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I believe someone posted before, and I do forget who, but I shall paraphrase. - 01/12/2010 05:44:58 AM 1090 Views
"favors"? *NM* - 01/12/2010 06:29:02 AM 348 Views
Yeah, I pretty much figured that. *NM* - 01/12/2010 02:17:21 PM 300 Views
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I really don't remember that - 01/12/2010 02:17:52 PM 878 Views
Re: I really don't remember that - 01/12/2010 02:19:58 PM 1095 Views
The "GASP Moment" that produced so much speculation leading up to KoD - 01/12/2010 03:13:56 PM 2558 Views
I don't think there was one. I like Olver btw. - 01/12/2010 04:24:26 PM 869 Views
I think it was supposed to be heartbreaking that a child was spending his days - 01/12/2010 05:42:40 PM 1164 Views
no...no I don't forget. I have a good emotional memory and it wasn't THAT long ago... - 01/12/2010 08:16:17 PM 787 Views
Brat's a little harsh. - 02/12/2010 04:39:58 PM 754 Views
it is a bit harsh. *NM* - 02/12/2010 05:01:02 PM 309 Views

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