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Egwene and the WIse Ones don't know the most basic thing about Teleranriod guttering flame Send a noteboard - 02/12/2010 10:43:16 PM
The Wise Ones are supposed to be the authority figures regarding the Dreamworld but there's one very basic thing they never showed any evidence of knowing:

When you are in Teleranriod your very soul is your body there and if you die you will never be reborn.

This gap in their knowledge is simply horrible.

I hoped that Perrin will tell Egwene this during their meeting in dream-Tower. That she would realize that she hadn't just killed Nicole she'd killed her forever.
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Egwene and the WIse Ones don't know the most basic thing about Teleranriod guttering flame - 02/12/2010 10:43:16 PM 2136 Views
IIRC Nicola was killed by a Black Ajah Sister and Egwene had tried to save her. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/12/2010 10:52:01 PM 1408 Views
Yes, I meant allowing her near the battle in the first place guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:28:45 AM 921 Views
And who would enforce those rules? j-whitt987 - 03/12/2010 12:42:33 PM 1072 Views
Also, I'm not sure how you could expect the Wise Ones to know that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/12/2010 02:51:43 PM 937 Views
How do you figure? Fanatic-Templar - 02/12/2010 10:55:15 PM 1141 Views
Re: How do you figure? malekithe - 02/12/2010 11:06:29 PM 1224 Views
may, being the operative word. LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 11:12:49 PM 1047 Views
except for the part of the soul that stays in the sleeping body, like they've explained many times. *NM* nigelgoboom - 02/12/2010 11:16:43 PM 490 Views
mmm fair point. maybe if you were there "too strongly"? LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 11:18:50 PM 1056 Views
right. but i dont think 'too strongly' ever means completely. maybe in the flesh or something *NM* nigelgoboom - 03/12/2010 01:24:38 AM 517 Views
This doesn't make a lot of sense guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:37:02 AM 985 Views
They also told Perrin that about... j-whitt987 - 03/12/2010 12:55:57 AM 1137 Views
yes, that is another confounding factor LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:14:35 AM 986 Views
Oh, I see. Fanatic-Templar - 02/12/2010 11:45:37 PM 1103 Views
Re: Oh, I see. DomA - 03/12/2010 02:29:30 AM 1118 Views
Re: Oh, I see. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 02:45:59 AM 1027 Views
He isn't a wolfbrother Timthetrolloc - 03/12/2010 05:43:06 AM 1094 Views
Maybe he hadn't discovered it yet. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 06:21:22 AM 971 Views
He'd be a shadowbrother-brother guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:51:59 AM 904 Views
You raise an interesting possibility guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:44:18 AM 1173 Views
Wolfbrothers are going to be part of the next age. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 07:05:30 AM 916 Views
I thought they were just a transitional thing guttering flame - 03/12/2010 07:13:17 AM 1011 Views
I doubt it, that Age is ours. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 09:33:03 PM 896 Views
Uhm, TOTALLY. LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 10:00:01 PM 885 Views
GASP! *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 06:59:09 AM 563 Views
I know RJ said something guttering flame - 04/12/2010 06:15:51 AM 893 Views
Re: I know RJ said something Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 07:05:50 AM 986 Views
So... guttering flame - 04/12/2010 07:24:07 AM 1023 Views
Re: So... Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 10:12:45 AM 974 Views
Of course... DomA - 05/12/2010 08:21:05 PM 1075 Views
If the first age is the Technological / Scientific Age guttering flame - 06/12/2010 06:33:18 AM 1013 Views
I don't see why they would have to be unique themes. LadyLorraine - 06/12/2010 07:04:08 AM 959 Views
I don't even know why they're supposed to be mutually exclusive. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/12/2010 07:37:35 AM 484 Views
Re: I don't see why they would have to be unique themes. guttering flame - 06/12/2010 08:14:15 AM 938 Views
uhm, duh, stonehedge. LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:11:44 PM 923 Views
No, because Heroes and Wolves are both different from run of the mill humans LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:19:05 AM 1032 Views
That's far from "the most basic" thing and it is entirely excusable that they do not know it. LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 11:17:46 PM 1128 Views
Re: That's far from "the most basic" thing and it is entirely excusable that they do not know it. DomA - 03/12/2010 02:42:39 AM 1065 Views
It could be extrapolated from the fact that it's souls that inhabit it guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:54:40 AM 963 Views
You're caving to bias from being outside the story with more information than any single character. LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:13:12 AM 985 Views
Don't forget the Heroes guttering flame - 03/12/2010 09:34:43 AM 856 Views
I think that she meant that comment as more for the "hero" version Apsalar Shadowdancer - 03/12/2010 10:57:38 AM 942 Views
Maybe this should be a question for Sanderson? guttering flame - 03/12/2010 11:43:54 AM 961 Views
that's only because you're stubbornly holding to yours, despite everyone indicating its errors *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 05:29:15 PM 557 Views
Obviously my tenacity indicates that I have a worthy point guttering flame - 03/12/2010 07:06:18 PM 761 Views
Perrin doesn't count since his information is from Hopper LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:58:01 PM 970 Views
So it's my evidence against your non-evidence? guttering flame - 04/12/2010 06:05:41 AM 1012 Views
why are you assuming that all souls are the same? LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:18:10 PM 1226 Views
1. You're wrong. 2. Even if you're right, how would they know? beetnemesis - 03/12/2010 05:28:33 AM 1188 Views
Maybe, but I bet they can spell it. Joel - 03/12/2010 05:43:28 AM 1028 Views
Incidentally, wouldn't that mean it is safer to go to Tel'aran'rhiod in the flesh? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 09:35:21 PM 474 Views
I'm more inclined to believe that being killed in the flesh in TAR darius_sedai - 04/12/2010 07:35:15 PM 889 Views
Where does that reasoning begin? Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 07:53:42 PM 1469 Views
Perhaps it's more of a matter that the "usual route" may be altered? LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 10:20:51 PM 852 Views
But human souls don't go to Tel'aran'rhiod, from what we know. Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 11:19:53 PM 871 Views
maybe it does? LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 12:18:05 AM 1205 Views
So do we have any reason to believe this is the case? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 05/12/2010 02:48:48 AM 465 Views
I don't think so. It's not really something that's discussed LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 03:19:37 AM 750 Views
I'm pondering too darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 03:04:10 PM 1028 Views
Not @ all - if humans regularly go to TAR after they die, we'd have seen it already. Heroes would newyorkersedai - 04/12/2010 01:28:45 AM 1056 Views
that would have been decidedly clever. *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:18:52 PM 464 Views
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