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So... guttering flame Send a noteboard - 04/12/2010 07:24:07 AM

Actually, the evidence for this is mostly from Thom's legends from the Age before the Age of Legends.

Wolfbrothers and the Portal Stones (and the Horn of Valere) are from an Age before the Age of Legends. This is not the same as the Age before the Age of Legends.


If the portal stones come from an age before ours they should be present in our age, in an even better state than they are two ages later. And yet we have no evidence of their existence.


That's not chronological nomenclature, that's just a description of the effects of time on history. This can be ages, millennia, centuries, generations... it depends on context.

Incidentally, why do you insist on making technology and Dreamers/Wolfkin a dichotomy?


So are you saying the dreamers and wolfbrothers fit in our age?
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Egwene and the WIse Ones don't know the most basic thing about Teleranriod guttering flame - 02/12/2010 10:43:16 PM 2109 Views
IIRC Nicola was killed by a Black Ajah Sister and Egwene had tried to save her. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/12/2010 10:52:01 PM 1386 Views
Yes, I meant allowing her near the battle in the first place guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:28:45 AM 908 Views
And who would enforce those rules? j-whitt987 - 03/12/2010 12:42:33 PM 1046 Views
Also, I'm not sure how you could expect the Wise Ones to know that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/12/2010 02:51:43 PM 914 Views
How do you figure? Fanatic-Templar - 02/12/2010 10:55:15 PM 1117 Views
Re: How do you figure? malekithe - 02/12/2010 11:06:29 PM 1199 Views
may, being the operative word. LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 11:12:49 PM 1026 Views
except for the part of the soul that stays in the sleeping body, like they've explained many times. *NM* nigelgoboom - 02/12/2010 11:16:43 PM 482 Views
mmm fair point. maybe if you were there "too strongly"? LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 11:18:50 PM 1027 Views
right. but i dont think 'too strongly' ever means completely. maybe in the flesh or something *NM* nigelgoboom - 03/12/2010 01:24:38 AM 510 Views
This doesn't make a lot of sense guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:37:02 AM 960 Views
They also told Perrin that about... j-whitt987 - 03/12/2010 12:55:57 AM 1116 Views
yes, that is another confounding factor LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:14:35 AM 967 Views
Oh, I see. Fanatic-Templar - 02/12/2010 11:45:37 PM 1084 Views
Re: Oh, I see. DomA - 03/12/2010 02:29:30 AM 1082 Views
Re: Oh, I see. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 02:45:59 AM 1000 Views
He isn't a wolfbrother Timthetrolloc - 03/12/2010 05:43:06 AM 1057 Views
Maybe he hadn't discovered it yet. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 06:21:22 AM 950 Views
He'd be a shadowbrother-brother guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:51:59 AM 882 Views
You raise an interesting possibility guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:44:18 AM 1153 Views
Wolfbrothers are going to be part of the next age. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 07:05:30 AM 894 Views
I thought they were just a transitional thing guttering flame - 03/12/2010 07:13:17 AM 995 Views
I doubt it, that Age is ours. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 09:33:03 PM 883 Views
Uhm, TOTALLY. LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 10:00:01 PM 866 Views
GASP! *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 06:59:09 AM 554 Views
I know RJ said something guttering flame - 04/12/2010 06:15:51 AM 869 Views
Re: I know RJ said something Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 07:05:50 AM 963 Views
So... guttering flame - 04/12/2010 07:24:07 AM 995 Views
Re: So... Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 10:12:45 AM 947 Views
Of course... DomA - 05/12/2010 08:21:05 PM 1060 Views
If the first age is the Technological / Scientific Age guttering flame - 06/12/2010 06:33:18 AM 995 Views
I don't see why they would have to be unique themes. LadyLorraine - 06/12/2010 07:04:08 AM 938 Views
I don't even know why they're supposed to be mutually exclusive. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/12/2010 07:37:35 AM 475 Views
Re: I don't see why they would have to be unique themes. guttering flame - 06/12/2010 08:14:15 AM 917 Views
uhm, duh, stonehedge. LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:11:44 PM 896 Views
No, because Heroes and Wolves are both different from run of the mill humans LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:19:05 AM 1006 Views
That's far from "the most basic" thing and it is entirely excusable that they do not know it. LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 11:17:46 PM 1101 Views
Re: That's far from "the most basic" thing and it is entirely excusable that they do not know it. DomA - 03/12/2010 02:42:39 AM 1036 Views
It could be extrapolated from the fact that it's souls that inhabit it guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:54:40 AM 942 Views
You're caving to bias from being outside the story with more information than any single character. LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:13:12 AM 960 Views
Don't forget the Heroes guttering flame - 03/12/2010 09:34:43 AM 838 Views
I think that she meant that comment as more for the "hero" version Apsalar Shadowdancer - 03/12/2010 10:57:38 AM 915 Views
Maybe this should be a question for Sanderson? guttering flame - 03/12/2010 11:43:54 AM 928 Views
that's only because you're stubbornly holding to yours, despite everyone indicating its errors *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 05:29:15 PM 550 Views
Obviously my tenacity indicates that I have a worthy point guttering flame - 03/12/2010 07:06:18 PM 740 Views
Perrin doesn't count since his information is from Hopper LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:58:01 PM 939 Views
So it's my evidence against your non-evidence? guttering flame - 04/12/2010 06:05:41 AM 996 Views
why are you assuming that all souls are the same? LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:18:10 PM 1200 Views
1. You're wrong. 2. Even if you're right, how would they know? beetnemesis - 03/12/2010 05:28:33 AM 1160 Views
Maybe, but I bet they can spell it. Joel - 03/12/2010 05:43:28 AM 1004 Views
Incidentally, wouldn't that mean it is safer to go to Tel'aran'rhiod in the flesh? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 09:35:21 PM 466 Views
I'm more inclined to believe that being killed in the flesh in TAR darius_sedai - 04/12/2010 07:35:15 PM 858 Views
Where does that reasoning begin? Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 07:53:42 PM 1442 Views
Perhaps it's more of a matter that the "usual route" may be altered? LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 10:20:51 PM 831 Views
But human souls don't go to Tel'aran'rhiod, from what we know. Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 11:19:53 PM 843 Views
maybe it does? LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 12:18:05 AM 1181 Views
So do we have any reason to believe this is the case? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 05/12/2010 02:48:48 AM 458 Views
I don't think so. It's not really something that's discussed LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 03:19:37 AM 726 Views
I'm pondering too darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 03:04:10 PM 1007 Views
Not @ all - if humans regularly go to TAR after they die, we'd have seen it already. Heroes would newyorkersedai - 04/12/2010 01:28:45 AM 1034 Views
that would have been decidedly clever. *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:18:52 PM 446 Views
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