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Error by Sanderson, or plot thickener? _Big_Easy_ Send a noteboard - 17/12/2010 03:30:25 AM
So the 2nd Dreamspike is in use at the Black Tower, yes?

That seems to be the consensus, since Rand can't travel there, nor can Grady,
and the Aes Sedai there seem unable to make Gateways as well.

However, when Androl is making a new bracer for Jonneth, he makes a small gateway to cut the leather.
Inside the Black Tower's grounds.

Although we don't have a ton of information, we do see from a Forsaken's PoV that the Dreamspike blocks all Gateways except those that are "allowed",
presumably by a person controlling the Dreamspike with tied-off weaves woven in T'A'R or something along those lines.

It seems implausible that it would block Gateways only of a certain size, since one could still attack or kill through a tiny gateway,
with a small stream of balefire or fireball or something.

It also seems implausible that anywhere in the grounds of the Black Tower would be outside the range of the Dreamspike,
since when we see Perrin and the wolves inside the Dreamspike, it covers a large area.

What do you guys think? An error by BS, or is Androl's talent for Gateways strong enough that weak though he is, he can break through a Dreamspike?

My vote is for error by Sanderson.
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Error by Sanderson, or plot thickener? - 17/12/2010 03:30:25 AM 2070 Views
Well, later Androl couldn't make one either later on - 17/12/2010 03:40:43 AM 1100 Views
Agreed. That was my thought when I was reading too. *NM* - 17/12/2010 03:52:28 AM 433 Views
yah, I think it could just be a matter of timing. *NM* - 17/12/2010 04:29:26 AM 376 Views
No error. - 17/12/2010 04:38:22 AM 1121 Views
Combined with the weather conditions and Logain reference - 17/12/2010 04:50:12 AM 981 Views
Re: Error by Sanderson, or plot thickener? - 17/12/2010 05:01:46 AM 921 Views
Work? It seemed obvious the dreamspike wasn't in place yet when Androl made the mini-gw *NM* - 17/12/2010 05:05:20 AM 416 Views
It's just weird chronology and chapter placement. - 17/12/2010 09:21:01 PM 796 Views
Exactly... - 18/12/2010 12:23:31 AM 1069 Views
Re: Error by Sanderson, or plot thickener? - 17/12/2010 03:00:23 PM 855 Views
Correct--no error. You can only make gateways to other locations within the dreamspike radius. - 17/12/2010 03:14:09 PM 760 Views
Incorrect... the effect is different in TAR and in the real world - 17/12/2010 11:23:26 PM 986 Views
One Correction - 20/12/2010 06:38:57 PM 796 Views
Re: One Correction - 21/12/2010 01:42:28 AM 693 Views
I thought the same. *NM* - 17/12/2010 03:28:29 PM 348 Views
I think it blocks all gateways. - 17/12/2010 04:08:59 PM 892 Views
I remember that, too. - 17/12/2010 07:19:56 PM 782 Views
Your logic is undeniable. *NM* - 17/12/2010 09:26:30 PM 388 Views

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