question for you, cause you are kind of missing the point of what Elayne is doing
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 20/12/2010 09:07:17 PM
It's not about what can the Tower do etc... it's about the fact that as an AS Elayne should not being doing these things, she's violating all kinds of rules! A non-AS queen would never even consider these actions!
As queen of Andor Elayne is certainly within her authority and rights to make a deal with the Kin. I don't believe the Kin have been incorporated into the Tower. Egwene has talked to Elayne and Nyneave about her plans to include the Kin into the Tower, but I don't recall any mention of that occuring yet. I know the Tower will accept those of the Kin who want to be apprentices. The rest of the Kin are free to do as they want.
The Tower will be in a snit, particulaly Romanda and Lelaine, but what can they do about it? Tell Elayne she can't be a real Aes Sedai, bring economic and political pressure on Elayne, go to war with Andor.
Actually she is not. For 3000 years the Tower has been the sole authority over Channeling. Teh post-Breaking world dictated this set up and as far as we know no monarch has ever tried to openly set up a group of Channelers tied to their throne. What do you think would have happened if Darlin or Alliandre or Tenobia had taken the same actions? It's a certainty that Elayne will get far more leeway and she knows it and exploits it here.
More than that, as an AS she is wrong to help organize a group of Channelers outside of the purview of the Tower.
As queen of Andor Elayne is certainly within her authority and rights to make a deal with the Kin. I don't believe the Kin have been incorporated into the Tower. Egwene has talked to Elayne and Nyneave about her plans to include the Kin into the Tower, but I don't recall any mention of that occuring yet. I know the Tower will accept those of the Kin who want to be apprentices. The rest of the Kin are free to do as they want.
The Tower will be in a snit, particulaly Romanda and Lelaine, but what can they do about it? Tell Elayne she can't be a real Aes Sedai, bring economic and political pressure on Elayne, go to war with Andor.
Actually she is not. For 3000 years the Tower has been the sole authority over Channeling. Teh post-Breaking world dictated this set up and as far as we know no monarch has ever tried to openly set up a group of Channelers tied to their throne. What do you think would have happened if Darlin or Alliandre or Tenobia had taken the same actions? It's a certainty that Elayne will get far more leeway and she knows it and exploits it here.
More than that, as an AS she is wrong to help organize a group of Channelers outside of the purview of the Tower.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Elayne kissing Egwene's ring?
- 15/12/2010 09:11:34 PM
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This is the expected ritual for the Kings and Queens meeting the Amyrlin
- 15/12/2010 10:39:45 PM
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It's a mere mark of respect to the Amyrlin Seat (the position, not the woman)
- 16/12/2010 02:01:17 AM
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Interesting points
- 16/12/2010 10:41:52 AM
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Re: Interesting points
- 16/12/2010 01:57:56 PM
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I disliked her actions
- 16/12/2010 03:46:44 PM
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It's not like the Kin weren't getting anything out of the deal, so what's the problem?
- 16/12/2010 04:33:16 PM
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BTW by "High Queen" I meant that other rulers showed her respect, not that she ruled them.
- 16/12/2010 04:42:40 PM
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This deserves its own thread..
- 16/12/2010 08:51:05 PM
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Re: This deserves its own thread..
- 17/12/2010 02:30:21 PM
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Re: This deserves its own thread..
- 17/12/2010 04:46:28 PM
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Re: It's a mere mark of respect to the Amyrlin Seat (the position, not the woman)
- 16/12/2010 11:36:22 PM
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question for you, cause you are kind of missing the point of what Elayne is doing
- 20/12/2010 09:07:17 PM
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Re: question for you, cause you are kind of missing the point of what Elayne is doing
- 22/12/2010 09:55:01 PM
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excellent observations ... makes me think the real reason it's been so hard for a Monarch
- 20/12/2010 08:42:34 PM
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Elaida / Siuan versus Morgase springs to mind
- 16/12/2010 07:00:21 AM
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yes, because that question is totally a yes/no question 
- 16/12/2010 11:49:34 PM
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- 16/12/2010 11:49:34 PM
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You can rephrase as 'What's more important to you, being Aes Sedai or being Queen of Andor'
- 17/12/2010 02:54:19 AM
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The Nobles don't really have any reason to assume the Amyrlin would do that
- 20/12/2010 08:50:54 PM
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