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How did *Alivia* survive? redqueen Send a noteboard - 01/01/2011 12:45:29 AM
Alivia had a lot more Power to play with, but we already know raw strength is a lot less important than skill. Cyndane knows far, far more about channeling, and she was able to see every weave that came her way. This means that she could both slice/interfere with Alivia's attacks, and she would quickly have got an idea of her abilities and strategy. And I don't care how good damane are at destroying things, they are not trained to be creative, adaptable or to show initiative. She would have been ferocious but single-minded, very predictable and easily tricked.

Alivia's only advantage in that battle was her unravelling ter'angreal, and it only stops direct attacks. All in all, Cyndane should have been able to kill Alivia with little difficulty; you can't stop a weave you can't see - or at least, Alivia doesn't know how to do so - and I can think of a dozen nasty ways of killing someone that don't require direct weave-contact. Cyndane undoubtedly knows many more. Alivia couldn't have seen them coming, couldn't have defended against them, and shouldn't have survived two minutes of concentrated attack.
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How did Cyndane defeat Alivia? - 31/12/2010 08:03:39 PM 3982 Views
As RJ said, Cyndane knows a LOT more about the OP - 31/12/2010 08:33:47 PM 1891 Views
Re: As RJ said, Cyndane knows a LOT more about the OP - 31/12/2010 11:54:57 PM 1659 Views
RJ said this .. Go look at his quotes *NM* - 01/01/2011 05:59:37 AM 1029 Views
Re: RJ said this .. Go look at his quotes - 01/01/2011 06:43:09 AM 1465 Views
Dude, he calls it out specifically. Cyndane beat Alivia because of her skill - 01/01/2011 03:22:48 PM 1485 Views
Search for "Alivia" - 01/01/2011 05:58:53 PM 1412 Views
nothing on either url *NM* - 01/01/2011 11:02:05 PM 658 Views
Try spelling it correctly then - 02/01/2011 01:30:23 AM 1390 Views
I did, maybe you made the mistake - 02/01/2011 07:13:54 PM 1170 Views
Re: I did, maybe you made the mistake - 02/01/2011 07:51:22 PM 1304 Views
Here are few other quotes establishing how little Alivia knows of the OP - 02/01/2011 07:39:36 PM 1427 Views
Damane don't know about reversed weaves - 31/12/2010 09:56:51 PM 1549 Views
Re: Damane don't know about reversed weaves - 31/12/2010 11:48:15 PM 1371 Views
Re: Damane don't know about reversed weaves - 01/01/2011 01:18:50 AM 1350 Views
How did *Alivia* survive? - 01/01/2011 12:45:29 AM 1685 Views
Re: How did *Alivia* survive? - 01/01/2011 01:26:09 AM 1489 Views
Yes, odd. - 01/01/2011 01:45:01 AM 1375 Views
Nicola wasn't the dragon reborn with the pattern bending around her - 02/01/2011 12:24:50 PM 1263 Views
Not really ... Rand has had LTT knowledge leaking into his head for a long time - 02/01/2011 07:13:41 PM 1338 Views
reversed weaves are only useful when dealing with someone who doesn't know they exist. - 03/01/2011 07:51:01 PM 1222 Views
Depends on the circumstances really - 04/01/2011 02:17:29 PM 1351 Views
but why would she have any idea that Nynaeve would be able to resist her. - 10/01/2011 07:30:49 PM 1254 Views
Well she did get attacked right off the bat... Pretty indicative that Nyn resist her compulsion - 11/01/2011 12:56:51 AM 1256 Views
Exactly. which is why she didn't have time to do any "fancy" and time consuming reversing. - 11/01/2011 03:23:50 PM 1418 Views
that's where she made her mistake - 11/01/2011 04:47:56 PM 1215 Views
It would be these memories, his t'a'veren nature & sheer luck/plot necessity that gave him the edge - 03/01/2011 10:32:43 PM 1317 Views
Well that was always going to happen - 03/01/2011 11:41:22 PM 1281 Views
agreed - 04/01/2011 02:18:23 PM 1301 Views
Re: How did Cyndane defeat Alivia? - 01/01/2011 12:56:54 AM 1478 Views
Re: How did Cyndane defeat Alivia? - 01/01/2011 01:13:39 AM 1370 Views
She's just that good - 01/01/2011 01:48:26 AM 1378 Views
magic *NM* - 01/01/2011 08:17:16 PM 604 Views
Cyndane injured Alivia, yes, but Alivia fought Cyndane off. - 02/01/2011 12:36:12 AM 1401 Views
Re: Cyndane injured Alivia, yes, but Alivia fought Cyndane off. - 02/01/2011 09:56:34 AM 1328 Views
Yup. - 02/01/2011 03:12:39 PM 1289 Views
Alivia has little experience fighting channellers, unlike Lanfear (most likely)... - 03/01/2011 12:56:43 AM 1808 Views
I agree with you - 03/01/2011 01:08:35 AM 1342 Views
Demandred wasn't commenting on Cadsuane's paralis net, but on her little bird saidin detector... - 03/01/2011 07:01:08 AM 1406 Views
Where do you get this idea? *NM* - 03/01/2011 07:19:50 PM 715 Views
Well, he's definitely right he was commenting on one of the specific ter'angreal in her "net". - 03/01/2011 10:51:09 PM 1365 Views
I'm thinking there are 2 items that break webs in different ways - 04/01/2011 07:51:46 PM 1325 Views
Very interesting point. I never noticed that before... - 05/01/2011 08:02:52 AM 1264 Views
Cadsuane has two types of weavebreakers... - 05/01/2011 12:51:38 PM 1143 Views
inconclusive ... the ornament may be the same one she used to disrupt Semirhage - 05/01/2011 04:09:39 PM 1226 Views
I'm confused... - 05/01/2011 06:15:06 PM 1222 Views
Why should Cadsuane's "distance" unraveler not also go cold at nearby channeling? - 05/01/2011 06:51:49 PM 1234 Views
I'd buy this. - 05/01/2011 07:12:50 PM 1192 Views
Except Cyndane had never heard of a ter'angreal that can unravel weaves... - 05/01/2011 07:18:58 PM 1132 Views
Not necessarily. - 05/01/2011 09:26:49 PM 1241 Views
I doubt it since LTT claims they created the "first" ones in the AOL - 08/01/2011 05:23:53 PM 1166 Views
The first paralis nets, not necessarily the first weave breakers. - 09/01/2011 09:53:56 PM 1226 Views
Maybe, but that's getting really convoluted - 10/01/2011 03:36:17 AM 1085 Views
Agreed - 10/01/2011 05:14:45 PM 1186 Views
It would fit the various scenarios if she had 2 kinds ... - 05/01/2011 03:53:48 PM 1223 Views
Because Demandred said so... - 04/01/2011 07:28:56 AM 1281 Views
Re: Because Demandred said so... - 04/01/2011 08:45:38 AM 1321 Views
Well there you have it, then... - 04/01/2011 09:24:38 AM 1214 Views
Contortions - 04/01/2011 09:56:11 AM 8183 Views
If anyone made a mistake, it was Sanderson, not RJ. - 04/01/2011 10:07:30 AM 1179 Views
Re: If anyone made a mistake, it was Sanderson, not RJ. - 04/01/2011 10:35:45 AM 1383 Views
I don't think Rand is referring to the system as an indivisible whole. - 04/01/2011 10:45:24 AM 1334 Views
Besides, he knew of the Well from their previous visit to Far Madding... - 04/01/2011 11:18:39 AM 1307 Views
It's also possible that a Paralis Net is simply a name for any personal system - 04/01/2011 09:23:18 PM 1385 Views
I agree. - 10/01/2011 07:08:19 PM 1239 Views
Agreed. Knowledge is power when it comes to channeling. - 03/01/2011 10:26:37 PM 1217 Views
Re: Agreed. Knowledge is power when it comes to channeling. - 03/01/2011 11:07:20 PM 1338 Views

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