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Re: Oooo! A smart one! She reads forums! Thank heavens an expert has come. RabidWombat Send a noteboard - 07/08/2011 10:40:41 PM
We (wot fans) know these words. Every Perrin/Faile chapter (Why Perrin didn't die in book 4??? He is useless.), almost every Elayne's chapter, Rand's chapters (from aCoS to aCoT) ...

You know, there's just no point in arguing this with you. Leave it at this. These opinions of yours, that these particular parts are filler or padding, are nonsensical. You call these portions by those terms, simply because you do not like those parts. That does not make them padding. They may or may not be badly written, but given that you seem to have no real idea of what the story in general is about, your assessment of these parts as padding says more about your shortcomings as a reader than Jordan's or Martin's as writers.

Unfortunately, Sanderson follows Jordan's path: the last two books have many, many filler chapters. (Around 60% , I think.)

Mr. Sanderson,

the best advice I can give you is this:

I know the book will be a bestseller but the last WoT book is very important to me/us.
Maybe the rest of us are stupid for swallowing filler and padding and thinking it is actually an enjoyable story, but you are the fucktard who reads a long series of large books you claim is mostly padding, and is only now expressing concern about this issue. 8} "It's SOOOO important to me that you keep this last 7% of the series good, Mr. Sanderson!"


I disagree strongly about the name calling even as I agree with many of the thoughts behind this post. It is infuriating when people use words like filler, padding as if their tastes and interests are the only things that count. I am re-reading CoT right now and really enjoying it, especially the sections that other people dislike. My favorite characters by far are those that most people dislike.

On the other hand, we ALL have blind spots. And while, I have no problem with people pointing out each others blind spots, it should be done with humility and without name calling. (Asking them to remove the plank from our eye so that we can remove the sliver from theirs.)

Sorry if I am picking on you. I have tendency of going harder on people when I agree with them, since I don't want a good argument tainted.
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A Dance of Dragons will influence A Memory of Light? beelaa - 28/07/2011 03:30:30 PM 2312 Views
It's impossible for nothing to happen in AMoL. Marshall - 28/07/2011 07:30:02 PM 1279 Views
Oh, you're so cute in your innocence! Cannoli - 02/08/2011 06:14:37 AM 1053 Views
Good thing I wasn't drinking milk when I read this. RabidWombat - 07/08/2011 10:24:29 PM 857 Views
Yeah, suck it WoT-haters! We're eclectic! *NM* Cannoli - 11/08/2011 02:00:05 AM 553 Views
Regardless of how bad it is, stuff still WILL happen. *NM* Marshall - 10/08/2011 05:30:02 PM 370 Views
Re: A Dance of Dragons will influence A Memory of Light? AshaShan - 28/07/2011 07:37:24 PM 1043 Views
Actually, there is growing discontent, even among those who've defended Martin. Libby - 07/08/2011 11:05:33 PM 1115 Views
Those who says that nothing happens in ADWD really need to read CoT Zeratul - 29/07/2011 12:02:23 PM 1057 Views
Watching grass grow is better than reading CoT, so it's not saying much for ADWD *NM* Praziquantel - 30/07/2011 02:10:12 AM 358 Views
~facepalm~ Libby - 08/08/2011 12:10:47 AM 873 Views
A Dance of Dragons is hardly filler. *shrugs* *NM* everynametaken - 31/07/2011 04:43:58 PM 577 Views
Agreed. It could be argued that more happens in the epilogue of ADWD than all of CoT. *NM* RandAllThor - 01/08/2011 01:27:58 AM 364 Views
*NM* fionwe1987 - 01/08/2011 05:22:18 AM 343 Views
That's like a pissing match between Gigli and Ishtar. Tom - 02/08/2011 04:43:18 AM 746 Views
I regret wasting much of July reading it, so I respectfully disagree. Tom - 02/08/2011 04:41:39 AM 849 Views
I do request that you don't lump ALL of fantasy into those two authors LadyLorraine - 02/08/2011 06:08:21 AM 843 Views
You are completely overlooking his point, however. Cannoli - 02/08/2011 06:12:45 AM 905 Views
F*** you, you idiot. *NM* Tom - 02/08/2011 06:13:48 AM 382 Views
At least he didn't ramble for five thousand words before actually making a point. *NM* everynametaken - 03/08/2011 11:04:06 PM 421 Views
Are you talking about Cannoli or Joel? : Larry - 03/08/2011 11:15:36 PM 824 Views
*NM* everynametaken - 04/08/2011 04:19:40 AM 413 Views
There is that. Tom - 04/08/2011 04:51:39 PM 764 Views
And a direct reply: Tom - 02/08/2011 06:25:28 AM 925 Views
that's fair enough LadyLorraine - 03/08/2011 12:22:34 AM 852 Views
Pretty much. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/08/2011 04:49:40 PM 654 Views
Wait... You want intelligent meaningful books, but you're demanding action? A Deathwatch Guard - 02/08/2011 06:52:00 AM 846 Views
I want one or the other. Tom - 02/08/2011 05:07:41 PM 742 Views
I don't mind a little of both Praziquantel - 02/08/2011 10:02:23 PM 649 Views
I think the issue is conflating fantasy with the multi-volume epics than anything I'd disagree with Larry - 03/08/2011 04:05:12 AM 1115 Views
That's debatable. *NM* Libby - 07/08/2011 11:07:51 PM 427 Views
Oooo! A smart one! She reads forums! Thank heavens an expert has come. Cannoli - 02/08/2011 06:24:47 AM 939 Views
Re: Oooo! A smart one! She reads forums! Thank heavens an expert has come. RabidWombat - 07/08/2011 10:40:41 PM 995 Views
Re: Oooo! A smart one! She reads forums! Thank heavens an expert has come. Cannoli - 19/08/2011 12:07:24 PM 1270 Views
I've wanted to say this for so long Japhy - 05/08/2011 02:21:10 AM 834 Views
This "fluff" as you call it is important. Japhy - 05/08/2011 02:54:32 AM 969 Views
Okay I'm not reading any of the replies in this thread until I finish ADwD, but I just wanted to say Sareitha Sedai - 10/08/2011 01:49:11 PM 998 Views
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