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Wait... You want intelligent meaningful books, but you're demanding action? A Deathwatch Guard Send a noteboard - 02/08/2011 06:52:00 AM
I read fantasy for entertainment and escapism true, but there are usually meaningful things scattered around in fantasy books too. I have yet to see what makes the majority of the classics different from that, aside from being a lot less entertaining.

I'm not defending Martin or Jordon. There are and were plenty of better authors than either of them (particularly the latter), and their books have their share of problems. But I would like to know why Anna Karenina and other such books alone are full of meaningful insights and ideas?
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A Dance of Dragons will influence A Memory of Light? beelaa - 28/07/2011 03:30:30 PM 2312 Views
It's impossible for nothing to happen in AMoL. Marshall - 28/07/2011 07:30:02 PM 1279 Views
Oh, you're so cute in your innocence! Cannoli - 02/08/2011 06:14:37 AM 1053 Views
Good thing I wasn't drinking milk when I read this. RabidWombat - 07/08/2011 10:24:29 PM 857 Views
Yeah, suck it WoT-haters! We're eclectic! *NM* Cannoli - 11/08/2011 02:00:05 AM 553 Views
Regardless of how bad it is, stuff still WILL happen. *NM* Marshall - 10/08/2011 05:30:02 PM 370 Views
Re: A Dance of Dragons will influence A Memory of Light? AshaShan - 28/07/2011 07:37:24 PM 1042 Views
Actually, there is growing discontent, even among those who've defended Martin. Libby - 07/08/2011 11:05:33 PM 1115 Views
Those who says that nothing happens in ADWD really need to read CoT Zeratul - 29/07/2011 12:02:23 PM 1057 Views
Watching grass grow is better than reading CoT, so it's not saying much for ADWD *NM* Praziquantel - 30/07/2011 02:10:12 AM 358 Views
~facepalm~ Libby - 08/08/2011 12:10:47 AM 873 Views
A Dance of Dragons is hardly filler. *shrugs* *NM* everynametaken - 31/07/2011 04:43:58 PM 577 Views
Agreed. It could be argued that more happens in the epilogue of ADWD than all of CoT. *NM* RandAllThor - 01/08/2011 01:27:58 AM 363 Views
*NM* fionwe1987 - 01/08/2011 05:22:18 AM 343 Views
That's like a pissing match between Gigli and Ishtar. Tom - 02/08/2011 04:43:18 AM 746 Views
I regret wasting much of July reading it, so I respectfully disagree. Tom - 02/08/2011 04:41:39 AM 849 Views
I do request that you don't lump ALL of fantasy into those two authors LadyLorraine - 02/08/2011 06:08:21 AM 842 Views
You are completely overlooking his point, however. Cannoli - 02/08/2011 06:12:45 AM 905 Views
F*** you, you idiot. *NM* Tom - 02/08/2011 06:13:48 AM 382 Views
At least he didn't ramble for five thousand words before actually making a point. *NM* everynametaken - 03/08/2011 11:04:06 PM 421 Views
Are you talking about Cannoli or Joel? : Larry - 03/08/2011 11:15:36 PM 824 Views
*NM* everynametaken - 04/08/2011 04:19:40 AM 413 Views
There is that. Tom - 04/08/2011 04:51:39 PM 764 Views
And a direct reply: Tom - 02/08/2011 06:25:28 AM 925 Views
that's fair enough LadyLorraine - 03/08/2011 12:22:34 AM 852 Views
Pretty much. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/08/2011 04:49:40 PM 654 Views
Wait... You want intelligent meaningful books, but you're demanding action? A Deathwatch Guard - 02/08/2011 06:52:00 AM 846 Views
I want one or the other. Tom - 02/08/2011 05:07:41 PM 742 Views
I don't mind a little of both Praziquantel - 02/08/2011 10:02:23 PM 649 Views
I think the issue is conflating fantasy with the multi-volume epics than anything I'd disagree with Larry - 03/08/2011 04:05:12 AM 1115 Views
That's debatable. *NM* Libby - 07/08/2011 11:07:51 PM 427 Views
Oooo! A smart one! She reads forums! Thank heavens an expert has come. Cannoli - 02/08/2011 06:24:47 AM 939 Views
Re: Oooo! A smart one! She reads forums! Thank heavens an expert has come. RabidWombat - 07/08/2011 10:40:41 PM 994 Views
Re: Oooo! A smart one! She reads forums! Thank heavens an expert has come. Cannoli - 19/08/2011 12:07:24 PM 1270 Views
I've wanted to say this for so long Japhy - 05/08/2011 02:21:10 AM 834 Views
This "fluff" as you call it is important. Japhy - 05/08/2011 02:54:32 AM 969 Views
Okay I'm not reading any of the replies in this thread until I finish ADwD, but I just wanted to say Sareitha Sedai - 10/08/2011 01:49:11 PM 998 Views
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