I agree with that assessment of why the series will not endure.
Tom Send a noteboard - 30/09/2011 06:18:30 AM
The first book was a bit uneven, but after that Jordan found a very compelling and entertaining story that was moving quickly and structured to move to a tumultuous climax at the end of each book. The story had tremendous potential, and after each book from 2-6, I closed the book saying, "Wow, I can't wait for the next one". (For clarity's sake, I should point out that I didn't have to wait to move to 3 and 4 from 2)
Book 7 was uneven again, and then 8-11 (and especially 10, as you noted) completely collapsed under the weight of a series of side stories that crippled the plot and hobbled the pacing. Defenders of Jordan start at this point to talk about story arcs and serialization and a whole lot of other things that reek of blind apologetics.
The simple truth is that even before he died, Jordan managed to ruin his series. His death simply made it impossible that the glory of Books 2-6 could be recovered. Sanderson has written some great books on his own, but he's constrained by notes and ideas that Jordan left and has to somehow vomit it all out on paper so that the fans get an ending.
Once that ending is out for everyone to read, Wheel of Time is likely to be used mostly for instructional purposes - a long list of "don'ts" for aspiring writers.
Book 7 was uneven again, and then 8-11 (and especially 10, as you noted) completely collapsed under the weight of a series of side stories that crippled the plot and hobbled the pacing. Defenders of Jordan start at this point to talk about story arcs and serialization and a whole lot of other things that reek of blind apologetics.
The simple truth is that even before he died, Jordan managed to ruin his series. His death simply made it impossible that the glory of Books 2-6 could be recovered. Sanderson has written some great books on his own, but he's constrained by notes and ideas that Jordan left and has to somehow vomit it all out on paper so that the fans get an ending.
Once that ending is out for everyone to read, Wheel of Time is likely to be used mostly for instructional purposes - a long list of "don'ts" for aspiring writers.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
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ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
This message last edited by Tom on 30/09/2011 at 06:19:30 AM
Now that the end of WOT is finally in sight.....a few logistical questions -
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I'll answer this survey...
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Interesting comment about WoT not having any "enduring value".....
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I agree with that assessment of why the series will not endure.
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Yes, I would love to see RJ's notes published with no/minimal editing! *NM*
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My answers
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Taking off from work? That's a pretty cool idea! End the series in style! *NM*
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Sure.
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Definitely argee.....8-11 were really bad and sucked the fun/passion out of the series for me.
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