But if Altara were to be secured under Tuon, there is no way Murandy or Ghealdan could stand for long, either, worsening Andor's position even further. This is probably what lead to the situation Aviendha saw in her vision of the possible future - the Seanchan pushing east, destroying the Black and White Tower, forcing the surviving Ashaman and Aes Sedai to scatter. War is inevitable and it really comes down to whether t'a'veren twisting will be needed to halt the Seanchan expansion or convert it into something less horrible. That's what I think is so insidious about the Seanchan - safety and security in exchange for pledging your allegiance seems like such a small thing but ultimately, at it's core, it's rot is even worse than the Black Ajah's manipulation of the Tower.
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This message last edited by RugbyPlayingAshaman on 11/11/2011 at 10:37:02 PM
Ghealdan needs a road
- 04/11/2011 07:05:21 AM
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Ghealdan does have a road to the east.
- 04/11/2011 02:37:38 PM
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I wonder if they'll realize they can use their explosives for road work... *NM*
- 04/11/2011 02:49:05 PM
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I think his point is that road goes through Seachan held northern Altara. *NM*
- 04/11/2011 06:10:17 PM
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Only if they stay on a southern course. Altara is actually farther south.
- 04/11/2011 07:43:01 PM
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Not according to the map you provided.
- 04/11/2011 09:01:50 PM
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Yes it does, actually.
- 09/11/2011 07:45:25 PM
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No, no it doesn't.
- 10/11/2011 03:16:19 AM
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I think you are incorrect, but not b/c of map - because of what the projection of force would need
- 10/11/2011 03:07:43 PM
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Re: I think you are incorrect, but not b/c of map ...
- 10/11/2011 06:05:07 PM
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Yes, Andor is in a bad position.
- 11/11/2011 10:05:09 PM
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Re: Yes, Andor is in a bad position.
- 12/11/2011 04:08:40 AM
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The really atypical atrocity in the Seanchan's conquests...
- 12/11/2011 06:55:33 AM
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Re: The really atypical atrocity in the Seanchan's conquests...
- 16/11/2011 09:30:09 PM
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Oh, is that what you think happened?
- 17/11/2011 06:04:12 AM
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Re: Oh, is that what you think happened?
- 18/11/2011 06:57:53 PM
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I said the road goes through northern Altara, and you disagreed, claiming Altara was further south.
- 10/11/2011 06:12:11 PM
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Yes - I said Altara is effectively south as they don't control or patrol most of their lands.
- 11/11/2011 09:58:41 PM
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Re: Yes - I said Altara is effectively south as they don't control or patrol most of their lands.
- 11/11/2011 11:28:40 PM
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Re: Yes - I said Altara is effectively south as they don't control or patrol most of their lands.
- 14/11/2011 05:44:42 PM
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A road north would be useless at this point.
- 05/11/2011 04:23:11 PM
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Choices of Ghealdan
- 07/11/2011 05:55:38 AM
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Re: Choices of Ghealdan
- 07/11/2011 03:38:03 PM
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A couple points
- 08/11/2011 12:31:57 PM
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