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Not even Moraine thinks the Finns killed Lanfear LoialT Send a noteboard - 28/02/2012 09:17:30 PM
Here's the actual text from the book:

"My Power, Thom," she explained. "I could hear them barking and hissing to one another as they fed on me, both Aelfinn and Eelfinn in turn. They have not often had an Aes Sedai to themselves, it seems. While draining my ability to channel, they were fed twofold--my sorrow at what I was losing and the Power itself. My capacity has been greatly reduced.
"They claimed to have killed Lanfear by draining her too quickly, though I think they may have been trying to make me afraid. A man was there once, when they woke me. He said I was not the one he wanted." She hesitated, then shivered. "Sometimes I wished they would drain me quickly and end my life."

"They gave you your three demands?" Mat asked, frowning.
"I passed through the ter'angreal," she said. "The ancient treaty held for both of us, though with the doorway destroyed, there was no simple return."


So we see that Moraine did see that Lanfear was alive after falling through the doorway, and that the treaty held for her too. Then while she was being fed on, she was made tastier by the frightful news that Lanfear had died this way. She didn't believe it, and Moridin's presence is pretty suggestive that it wasn't true.

The question then, is how did she die? Did the Finns agree to let her go on the condition that she was dead? Do the Finns have to keep to bargains with the Shadow? I don't see how killing her would accomplish anything for the Finns, however. They would want Moridin to give up something. Even if he was trying to trick the Finns into thinking he wanted Lanfear alive, he wouldn't risk killing her there where there was the chance she might not be transmigrated, and he knew perfectly well that he could kill her whenever he wanted. I bet he brought along a captive channeler to exchange. Then I think events proceeded like you suggest, with the utter stripping, humiliation, and enslavement of the Shadow's most vain and self-interested servant.

LoialT :]
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What did happen to Lanfear? - 23/02/2012 10:54:19 AM 2412 Views
I thought Moiraine saw Moridin or somebody in there looking for Lanfear? - 23/02/2012 01:00:25 PM 1226 Views
Re: I thought Moiraine saw Moridin or somebody in there looking for Lanfear? - 23/02/2012 02:14:05 PM 1098 Views
do souls remain the same strength with each reincarnation though? - 23/02/2012 05:45:40 PM 882 Views
We can only theorize - 24/02/2012 08:14:49 AM 964 Views
The Forsaken aren't a great parameter to judge from - 24/02/2012 04:10:35 PM 810 Views
Without the Forsaken its a pointless subject - 24/02/2012 04:23:57 PM 944 Views
not all things need to be explained. - 27/02/2012 04:07:21 AM 701 Views
Sanderson doesn't think this is the case - 26/02/2012 12:47:26 AM 902 Views
I don't think Lanfear died in Finnland - 27/02/2012 02:02:31 AM 1367 Views
I assume this was meant to be a response to Sidious' original post *NM* - 27/02/2012 02:18:09 AM 372 Views
All this could be true and could still have died at Finnland... - 27/02/2012 04:40:50 AM 731 Views
Re: All this could be true and could still have died at Finnland... - 28/02/2012 04:46:41 AM 797 Views
Why so? - 28/02/2012 06:33:25 AM 738 Views
I pretty much agree - 28/02/2012 07:15:26 AM 938 Views
WHen and where Lanfears original body died doesn't mean much to me - 28/02/2012 02:01:00 PM 701 Views
Re: WHen and where Lanfears original body died doesn't mean much to me - 28/02/2012 05:40:21 PM 666 Views
Perhaps ... But doesn't explain what they get out of killing her ... They have proven to be crafty - 28/02/2012 07:17:21 PM 716 Views
Well... - 28/02/2012 08:13:03 PM 801 Views
then why even negotiate with Moridin? - 28/02/2012 09:24:38 PM 832 Views
Re: Why so? - 28/02/2012 07:01:38 PM 850 Views
Not even Moraine thinks the Finns killed Lanfear - 28/02/2012 09:17:30 PM 1197 Views
Limits of resurrection... - 29/02/2012 12:32:43 AM 1000 Views
Pretty sure it was Slayer - 23/02/2012 04:10:29 PM 924 Views
He's still a minion, and would have been acting on the Shadow's behalf - 23/02/2012 04:56:21 PM 800 Views
I corrected you. Not Moridin. It was Slayer. - 24/02/2012 08:07:17 AM 851 Views
And you know this, how? - 24/02/2012 08:43:38 AM 805 Views
Really? Its absolutely obvious that it was slayer. - 10/05/2012 04:16:43 PM 1175 Views
Maybe they can only drain a fixed amount - and did so to both women equally... - 24/02/2012 08:32:56 PM 928 Views
Ahh, Shannow... - 25/02/2012 03:51:10 AM 869 Views
I laughed too *NM* - 25/02/2012 06:54:15 AM 379 Views
Hilarious even for you - 26/02/2012 12:28:28 AM 807 Views
Exactly! *NM* - 27/02/2012 12:19:57 AM 443 Views
Seems convoluted to me - 26/02/2012 12:44:18 AM 786 Views
his sanity? *NM* - 28/02/2012 06:07:25 PM 500 Views
HA! Sanity is overrated *NM* - 28/02/2012 07:21:01 PM 371 Views
I wonder if he traded a taste of the True Power? - 29/02/2012 12:26:56 AM 699 Views
Now that is an interesting theory! - 29/02/2012 05:42:22 AM 686 Views
Maybe they can use the TP - 29/02/2012 02:43:07 PM 874 Views
Considering how they feel about anything dealing with the shadow, - 29/02/2012 03:03:55 PM 669 Views
Why not? I believe RJ basically said they are so different from humans that we could not define - 01/03/2012 04:54:40 AM 775 Views
Yet Light vs. Shadow is? - 01/03/2012 05:17:14 AM 754 Views
That could boil down to prophesy v. Prophesy - 01/03/2012 05:33:52 AM 773 Views
LOVE IT ... Great thoughts! *NM* - 01/03/2012 04:52:38 AM 317 Views
The foxhead... - 01/03/2012 05:19:13 AM 772 Views
Yes, but that doesn't mean an Aes Sedai made it. - 01/03/2012 04:20:10 PM 734 Views
My point was... - 01/03/2012 05:34:34 PM 612 Views
What makes you think so? - 01/03/2012 06:45:42 PM 730 Views
Re: What makes you think so? - 01/03/2012 11:22:06 PM 650 Views
Re: What makes you think so? - 02/03/2012 12:57:13 AM 686 Views
It depends.... - 08/03/2012 09:54:45 PM 786 Views

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