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Sorry, that's just not true... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 28/09/2012 11:33:59 PM
You are correct that Jordan overdid the "internal stream of thought" a little too much, at times. But the complete absence of such a thing is plan bad writing. The author has to give us some cues about character interaction, be it in the form of facial expression and physical gestures of the people involved, or their tone of voice. That is completely absent with Sanderson. Same with the internal thoughts of the PoV character. They serve a double purpose. They let us see how a character reacts to a conversation, but they're also absolutely essential to showing how the character changes in response to conversation. If Egwene's position vis a vis her trust of Elayne has changed due to Elayne dealing with the Kinswomen, we have to know. Because this is going to have serious repercussions down to the line, and if we see Egwene's thoughts here, her later actions will make more sense, and will not need an explanation either.

The problem is, Sanderson gives us the skeleton of the scene, but none of the actual flesh. Its like disembodied voices are occupying the scene, so much so that there are several instances where the character starts a dialogue in one place, and has then moved by the end of it with the reader clueless as to when this happened. For example, read the scene where Egwene reveals to the Rebel Hall that there are BA among them, and then Moria gets up to run away. What follows is a pathetic mess. Egwene is in all sorts of positions and places as if by magic, and the same with the Sitters.

Rectifying these issues actually doesn't take much space, and as DomA said, actually ends up saving the need for more scenes. Its not a matter of preference. These are basic rules for good creative writing.
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If you have to call someone "my friend" three times in a couple of minutes, he isn't. - 28/09/2012 11:59:13 AM 6026 Views
John McCain has a similar proclivity. *NM* - 28/09/2012 12:26:29 PM 1257 Views
The only people I've ever heard say "my friend" are foreign street vendors - 28/09/2012 01:19:00 PM 1343 Views
Potential customer = best kind of friend *NM* - 28/09/2012 02:20:29 PM 804 Views
I agree in this particular instance. - 28/09/2012 03:38:15 PM 1722 Views
Maybe they have been Quakers all along? *NM* - 28/09/2012 03:39:24 PM 907 Views
Sanderson's handling of character interractions is pathetic.... - 28/09/2012 06:43:48 PM 1588 Views
Now see, here I don't fully agree, or at least think it's a matter of taste. - 28/09/2012 07:21:09 PM 2297 Views
Sorry, that's just not true... - 28/09/2012 11:33:59 PM 1380 Views
A few things. - 29/09/2012 02:40:47 AM 1729 Views
Great rebuttal! Fionwe got burned! *NM* - 29/09/2012 04:00:41 PM 971 Views
Re: A few things. - 30/09/2012 06:07:57 PM 1909 Views
I posted something very similar at DM. Reposting... - 28/09/2012 11:46:07 PM 1445 Views
Re: I posted something very similar at DM. Reposting... - 29/09/2012 01:51:20 AM 1612 Views
Yes! - 29/09/2012 02:26:39 AM 1566 Views
This is one of my biggest pet peeves as well - 29/09/2012 04:56:53 AM 1589 Views
There are people who say that? - 29/09/2012 05:16:58 AM 1439 Views
I complained about this regarding the Forsaken chapter - 28/09/2012 07:34:25 PM 1661 Views
I've long since accepted that Sanderson uses inaccurate terms like "powerful" - 29/09/2012 05:44:11 AM 1672 Views
To be fair, the last Moghedian PoV by RJ might have changed her a bit. - 29/09/2012 03:27:31 PM 1355 Views
Which is the question I brought up in another thread - 29/09/2012 05:29:01 PM 1251 Views
The burning question to me, after reading all of the comments above, is this... - 29/09/2012 08:50:50 AM 1581 Views
Piggybacking on someone else's established characters and near-climax-point plot? - 29/09/2012 03:04:03 PM 1644 Views
Both of you disgust me - 29/09/2012 04:13:16 PM 1534 Views
This is not jealousy, it's being upset - 29/09/2012 07:52:51 PM 1432 Views
They could have hired a ghost writer. They chose not to. *NM* - 29/09/2012 09:34:27 PM 9947 Views
Your crappy taste in books means nothing - 30/09/2012 09:23:51 PM 1935 Views
When did I ever say Eli Manning wasn't a good QB? - 01/10/2012 03:40:21 PM 1324 Views
To be fair... - 29/09/2012 04:36:52 PM 1408 Views
True ... He may not be perfect, and he certainly made some strange choices - 29/09/2012 05:37:29 PM 1321 Views
B-Sand is not a ghost writer - 29/09/2012 06:35:16 PM 2694 Views
Didn't say he should. - 29/09/2012 09:07:45 PM 2008 Views
I mostly agree with this. - 29/09/2012 09:36:38 PM 1666 Views
What is it you want? - 29/09/2012 09:39:36 PM 1562 Views
We want to bitch about an inferior product. Duh. - 29/09/2012 10:00:09 PM 4900 Views
Hmm that's true I guess. Sad though *NM* - 29/09/2012 10:07:25 PM 654 Views
It is what it is - 30/09/2012 12:52:20 AM 1171 Views
Those are not remotely the same thing - 30/09/2012 09:14:49 PM 1449 Views
But they are the same in this instance - 30/09/2012 10:01:59 PM 1395 Views
It's fairly simple.... - 30/09/2012 09:55:52 PM 1622 Views
Thanks for that insightful response... - 30/09/2012 10:37:27 PM 1288 Views
Forgotten Realms is big on clever spells and magic systems? - 01/10/2012 05:27:05 AM 1260 Views
It's more... - 01/10/2012 01:05:18 PM 2015 Views
Did you read Way of Kings? - 03/10/2012 09:14:43 PM 1516 Views
No, nothing but the prologue - 04/10/2012 02:56:14 AM 1289 Views
Re: The burning question to me, after reading all of the comments above, is this... - 11/10/2012 08:22:27 PM 1185 Views

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