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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends. lilltempest Send a noteboard - 10/01/2013 04:00:57 PM
Does the Dragon's Peace account for anything? The contract was for his life, and some of the signees
May well be looking for an excuse to break it already (like Tuon, married to Matt). It may well be that the fewer people that know he's alive the better for the World, not just for himself


I can see that, but since three of his loved ones having a generally noted "Meh" attitude towards his 'death' isn't bringing everything down, would it hurt to let Tam & Nynaeve in on it?


I did not like the fact that Nyn and Tam (the two who actually care the most, out of everyone who knows him) were not told. It would have made more sense if the bonds had snapped, leaving the three women to believe him dead (Min, at least, might have shed a tear or two, even if the other two are incapable of such emotion or caring), with Nynaeve aware that he was alive (perhaps via delving, she could've noted something "different" about "Moridin" and gotten Alivia to help him escape, knowing that his life may be in danger from that psycho Forotuona and others who wanted him to die, like everyone at the WT). It would've made a nice twist on Nyn healing someone "three days dead" while merging the vision that Alivia would help Rand die. It also would've freed him from his women. Nyn would've told Tam, I'm sure - she has too much compassion not to do so - but she would've accepted that she could not tell the three stooges and, upon seeing their non-reaction, she would have confirmed it was the correct thing to do.

What bothers me as much as any of this is that Nynaeve, and to a lesser extent, Perrin, are the only two of that whole lot with a heart. I can get the three stooges not crying, given that they know Rand is alive, but Egwene is dead (who was supposedly Elayne and Avi's bestest friend in the whole wide world, and since everyone was supposedly enamored of her greatness, even Min should've felt something over the loss), Gawyn is dead (did Elayne forget that he was the only brother she had that she doesn't despise??)...yet the only person shedding tears for those lost is Nyn? I should've known she was the only one with a heart. Perrin, at least, offered her comfort and shed a few tears himself, and that shows that the man has a heart as well. But the rest of them? A bunch of cold fish. Nyn needs to extricate herself from the lot of them, save Perrin, before they end up rubbing off on her and leaving her an emotionless asshole just like them.

By the way, this book made me dislike Mat, who had been one of my favorite males for a long time. Thanks a lot, BS.
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double post thanks to daughter *NM* *NM* - 10/01/2013 06:16:01 AM 723 Views
I could be wrong, but... - 10/01/2013 06:16:02 AM 1714 Views
Except... - 10/01/2013 06:54:04 AM 1700 Views
Re: Except... - 10/01/2013 06:56:43 AM 1432 Views
If the World finds out he's still alive - 10/01/2013 08:05:18 AM 1623 Views
I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends. - 10/01/2013 10:56:58 AM 1649 Views
Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends. - 10/01/2013 04:00:57 PM 1616 Views
Why Mat in particular? - 10/01/2013 04:07:19 PM 1433 Views
Re: Why Mat in particular? - 10/01/2013 04:20:37 PM 1582 Views
This is because I tend to assume the best in Rand - 10/01/2013 04:28:20 PM 1347 Views
I don't fault Rand for any of it, at the moment.... - 10/01/2013 04:49:25 PM 1570 Views
Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends. - 11/01/2013 02:34:16 AM 1479 Views
Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends. - 13/01/2013 09:01:38 PM 1390 Views
I got the impression Egwene knew releasing the Source would instantly kill her. - 14/01/2013 11:42:03 AM 1580 Views
Re: I got the impression Egwene knew she was dead the moment she released the Source. - 14/01/2013 05:59:21 PM 1449 Views
Even if she would just have been burned out there was no reason to think it permanent. - 14/01/2013 06:49:00 PM 1395 Views
Where do people get that only Rand was right on the Seals? - 14/01/2013 10:03:19 PM 1575 Views
One point- the DO didn't break free, Rand dragged him out into the Pattern, specifically to kill him - 15/01/2013 03:03:43 AM 1236 Views
Nope.. - 15/01/2013 03:19:02 AM 1303 Views
Re: Nope.. - 15/01/2013 03:33:06 AM 1636 Views
The quote Shai'tan doesn't try and deny: - 15/01/2013 09:41:24 PM 1384 Views
From Egwenes insistence they NEVER be broken. - 15/01/2013 07:26:36 AM 1570 Views
Agree 100%. Tam and Nynaeve deserve to know. - 10/01/2013 05:47:04 PM 1449 Views
Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move.... - 10/01/2013 07:13:52 PM 1760 Views
You don't think Nakomi did it? - 10/01/2013 07:54:20 PM 2082 Views
Maybe - 10/01/2013 09:46:39 PM 1652 Views
Re: Maybe - 10/01/2013 11:08:32 PM 1528 Views
Nope.. an agent of the Wheel - 10/01/2013 11:53:54 PM 1604 Views
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*NM* *NM* - 11/01/2013 06:51:10 PM 684 Views
I've a suspiscion that the Rand scene of Epilogue was probably drafted already - 12/01/2013 12:11:13 AM 1508 Views
That makes a great deal of sense. - 15/01/2013 07:45:55 AM 1510 Views
Re: That makes a great deal of sense. - 15/01/2013 09:37:47 AM 1320 Views
Impossible to say, but I doubt he intended to keep his inner circle perpetually in the dark. - 14/01/2013 11:25:47 AM 1494 Views
I agree. Hell, he's still bonded to the women - 28/01/2013 03:42:47 PM 1358 Views
More the three sisters - 20/01/2013 04:55:36 PM 1253 Views

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