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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move.... DomA Send a noteboard - 10/01/2013 07:13:52 PM
...on Rand's part?

In the first place, he appears to have anticipated his survival, as the first thing he does upon awakening is observe that Alivia did her job in providing him with exit support. How was that arranged beforehand?

"Hey, Alivia buddy, there's a chance I might live through this


Pretty much.

I was set up with that scene where Cadsuane (Or was it Moiraine, I forget which) tells Rand he shouldn't go to the battle taking his death for granted.

He did listen, and planned something. And yeah, it was to vanish, in disguise (inverted MoM) with as few people as possible aside from his three women and Alivia knowing.

He didn't foresee the Moridin solution, that "of course" moment came as he exited SG. "Of course, I didn't understand but now I do.. I need not vanish, I need to fake my death".

I'm pretty sure he did like the pipe: he thought himself as Moridin, and thought Moridin as "Rand"... and it happened.



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So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move.... Cannoli - 10/01/2013 04:40:55 AM 3281 Views
Because, to quote the series... Great Lord of Chaos - 10/01/2013 05:01:51 AM 1679 Views
It's not so much about him not telling as cutting loved ones out of his life altogether *NM* Cannoli - 10/01/2013 05:47:14 AM 716 Views
I had hoped a lot more people would have died. standby - 30/01/2013 03:28:26 PM 1079 Views
Frankly, it seemed out of character. Ghavrel - 10/01/2013 05:08:48 AM 1389 Views
double post thanks to daughter *NM* *NM* gban007 - 10/01/2013 06:16:01 AM 547 Views
I could be wrong, but... gban007 - 10/01/2013 06:16:02 AM 1392 Views
Except... Cannoli - 10/01/2013 06:54:04 AM 1386 Views
Re: Except... gban007 - 10/01/2013 06:56:43 AM 1129 Views
That was my interpretation as well. I think it was an attempt at showing Rand's humility. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/01/2013 08:17:52 AM 683 Views
If the World finds out he's still alive IndigoAjahV2 - 10/01/2013 08:05:18 AM 1318 Views
I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends. Cannoli - 10/01/2013 10:56:58 AM 1298 Views
Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends. lilltempest - 10/01/2013 04:00:57 PM 1285 Views
Why Mat in particular? Zalvera - 10/01/2013 04:07:19 PM 1136 Views
Re: Why Mat in particular? lilltempest - 10/01/2013 04:20:37 PM 1240 Views
This is because I tend to assume the best in Rand IndigoAjahV2 - 10/01/2013 04:28:20 PM 1062 Views
I don't fault Rand for any of it, at the moment.... lilltempest - 10/01/2013 04:49:25 PM 1214 Views
Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends. Cannoli - 11/01/2013 02:34:16 AM 1139 Views
Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends. lilltempest - 13/01/2013 09:01:38 PM 1097 Views
I got the impression Egwene knew releasing the Source would instantly kill her. Joel - 14/01/2013 11:42:03 AM 1239 Views
Re: I got the impression Egwene knew she was dead the moment she released the Source. lilltempest - 14/01/2013 05:59:21 PM 1092 Views
Even if she would just have been burned out there was no reason to think it permanent. Joel - 14/01/2013 06:49:00 PM 1040 Views
Where do people get that only Rand was right on the Seals? fionwe1987 - 14/01/2013 10:03:19 PM 1227 Views
One point- the DO didn't break free, Rand dragged him out into the Pattern, specifically to kill him IndigoAjahV2 - 15/01/2013 03:03:43 AM 919 Views
Nope.. fionwe1987 - 15/01/2013 03:19:02 AM 1019 Views
Re: Nope.. IndigoAjahV2 - 15/01/2013 03:33:06 AM 1284 Views
The quote Shai'tan doesn't try and deny: IndigoAjah - 15/01/2013 09:41:24 PM 1049 Views
If that were the case Taim certainly would have smashed the seals right away Isaac - 15/01/2013 08:54:14 AM 1135 Views
From Egwenes insistence they NEVER be broken. Joel - 15/01/2013 07:26:36 AM 1200 Views
Agree 100%. Tam and Nynaeve deserve to know. Myrdhyn - 10/01/2013 05:47:04 PM 1113 Views
Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move.... DomA - 10/01/2013 07:13:52 PM 1440 Views
You don't think Nakomi did it? LoialT - 10/01/2013 07:54:20 PM 1734 Views
Maybe DomA - 10/01/2013 09:46:39 PM 1363 Views
Re: Maybe LoialT - 10/01/2013 11:08:32 PM 1229 Views
I thought it was largely believed that Nakomi is an avatar of the Creator. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/01/2013 11:19:43 PM 662 Views
It's one of the dominant theories, not sure it's the one favoured by the majority, but maybe *NM* DomA - 10/01/2013 11:55:46 PM 608 Views
Nope.. an agent of the Wheel DomA - 10/01/2013 11:53:54 PM 1318 Views
IDK, I thought the body switch was a side-effect of the link between them Cannoli - 11/01/2013 02:38:33 AM 1186 Views
*NM* *NM* DomA - 11/01/2013 06:51:10 PM 536 Views
Re: IDK, I thought the body switch was a side-effect of the link between them DomA - 11/01/2013 06:52:29 PM 1469 Views
Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move.... Dunstan - 11/01/2013 12:01:09 AM 968 Views
Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move.... AshaShan - 11/01/2013 07:45:26 AM 1007 Views
He realised that both he and LTT were not peace rulers several books ago IndigoAjahV2 - 11/01/2013 12:25:37 PM 992 Views
Re: He realised that both he and LTT were not peace rulers several books ago AshaShan - 11/01/2013 10:39:33 PM 1017 Views
I've a suspiscion that the Rand scene of Epilogue was probably drafted already Isaac - 12/01/2013 12:11:13 AM 1196 Views
Re: I've a suspiscion that the Rand scene of Epilogue was probably drafted already Watcher - 12/01/2013 12:58:01 PM 1066 Views
I think you need to re-read that last section Isaac - 15/01/2013 09:19:41 AM 1125 Views
I agree. Rand carries a man out of SG who he didn't bring there- logic dictates he is Forsaken *NM* IndigoAjahV2 - 15/01/2013 12:44:18 PM 560 Views
That makes a great deal of sense. Joel - 15/01/2013 07:45:55 AM 1175 Views
Re: That makes a great deal of sense. Isaac - 15/01/2013 09:37:47 AM 982 Views
It is something we just had to expect when Sanderson came in to finish the series. Joel - 15/01/2013 11:24:06 AM 965 Views
Impossible to say, but I doubt he intended to keep his inner circle perpetually in the dark. Joel - 14/01/2013 11:25:47 AM 1186 Views
I agree. Hell, he's still bonded to the women beetnemesis - 28/01/2013 03:42:47 PM 1039 Views
More the three sisters Knightscape - 20/01/2013 04:55:36 PM 925 Views
Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move.... muppet - 25/01/2013 03:53:05 PM 925 Views
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