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Re: It was unexpected but not too weird, Mat's various deaths have spawned a lot of theories Isaac Send a noteboard - 12/01/2013 01:55:57 AM
Personally I found the entire Horn subplot with Faile to be unnecessary, ditto the stolen seals. Not bad exactly but in an already absurdly long final book-turned-trilogy I think the loss could have just been accomplished by having Egwene have both at the WT command post and having them fall into enemy hands or just get lost when Demandred showed up with the whole damn Sharan army. A rescue or recovery operation then would have fit a lot better and felt less shoe-horned. Hell it would have made Gawyn's death more logical and less forced if Demandred had them and Gawyn felt the Blood Knife rings might have granted him the chance to rescue them.

Honestly, the Bloodknife rings just seem to be something BS added.

Aside from the whole "dagger using, magically stealthy assassin" thing just being so him, there's also the WOG of RJ saying that the Seanchan could only make a'dams.

Don't really care if it is the case, but that's how it feels to me.


It wouldn't surprise me if BS made them though they fit the Seanchan. I didn't expect Egwene to die in the series though so I'm glad Gawyn managed to get a separate and significant death scene and I think the blood knife material gave them a good sub-plot and device to accomplish that. I tend to assume RJ left a lot less hard and fully constructed material for BS to work with then is often assumed and I wouldn't be surprised if BS got 'Gawyn saves Egwene from assassins' with little other detail to work with and had to construct something plausible.
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Mat and the Horn - 12/01/2013 12:31:21 AM 1224 Views
Bigger question. - 12/01/2013 12:37:32 AM 826 Views
Wow, didn't think of that, either. *NM* - 12/01/2013 12:59:51 AM 317 Views
It was unexpected but not too weird, Mat's various deaths have spawned a lot of theories - 12/01/2013 01:01:02 AM 753 Views
Re: It was unexpected but not too weird, Mat's various deaths have spawned a lot of theories - 12/01/2013 01:14:57 AM 622 Views
Re: It was unexpected but not too weird, Mat's various deaths have spawned a lot of theories - 12/01/2013 01:55:57 AM 712 Views
The Horn subplot with Faile was just dumb - 12/01/2013 01:35:57 AM 651 Views
When it happened I gave the book the finger *NM* - 12/01/2013 12:31:48 PM 272 Views
There have been tons of theories - 12/01/2013 01:58:18 AM 1033 Views
On that note. We know Mat isn't tied to the Horn. Do we know about Perrin or Rand? - 12/01/2013 02:56:15 AM 650 Views
Rand always has been. - 12/01/2013 02:57:32 AM 632 Views
What about the wolves? *NM* - 12/01/2013 05:05:05 AM 260 Views
Oh yes the wolves. - 12/01/2013 06:47:46 AM 614 Views
According to Maria at the Q&A, Rand is not tied to the Horn - 12/01/2013 07:14:37 PM 645 Views
Thanks! Which Q&A was this? - 12/01/2013 07:21:05 PM 535 Views
Provo midnight release - 12/01/2013 10:29:11 PM 549 Views
Re: According to Maria at the Q&A, Rand is not tied to the Horn - 12/01/2013 10:51:31 PM 690 Views
Matt isn't tied at the time he asks - 12/01/2013 05:55:59 PM 569 Views
The RJ interview should have spawned more theories - 12/01/2013 03:10:34 PM 685 Views
I think it was quite obvious... *NM* - 13/01/2013 08:25:29 AM 331 Views

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