Active Users:620 Time:03/08/2025 02:07:32 AM
Not quite DomA Send a noteboard - 24/01/2013 04:47:00 PM
For most of the series, the Wise Ones were really underused as a fighting force for no reason besides that it would've have made things too easy for Rand and the Light side.

I mean at the start of LoC Rand had thousands of them available yet he was all "I need the Asha'man otherwise I have no chance against the Tower.


Jordan kept them in reserve.

He established very well through the books why Rand acted as he did toward the WO. There were always reasons why they were not involved in this or that. The reasons were not always acceptable/accepted by many readers or felt contrived to some, but we always had reasons.

But this time there's no good explanation why they sat the Last Battle, why more fought at Dumai's Wells in LOC then have went to SG.

Not all the WO agreed to give up tradition and get involved in fighting by LOC, but you'd expect many more than an handful would have joined Amys and co., or that the issue would have been at least raised among those WO. Brandon simply forgot they existed, wrote them off.

Besides, given how overpowered channellers are compared to normal people, the normals would've been just cannon fodder if there were thousands of channellers on both sides.


You're really making excuses for Brandon.

The numbers were the numbers, he had to find ways to work with them, like Jordan always did. Writing off thousands without giving the readers even the shadow of an explanation why they were not involved was just poor plotting. He did the same thing with Roedran and the Murandians for example, never heard of again after Merrilor.

Without depriving Brandon of all he did well, and there's a lot, there were a lot of continuity mistakes in his rushed planning/outlining. He tended to contrive stuff a lot to get the scenes to play out as he wished (a good example in AMOL is giving Min a relationship with Mat when they barely ever met (a few hours at Falme at best). The scenes were full of mistakes, like Min talking of Mat wearing "his usual hat", which of course she had never seen. Those scenes would have worked well had they happened between Perrin and Min who developed a relationship over months spent together in the mountains, but not between Min and Mat). That sort of things Jordan avoided like the plague weakened Brandon's efforts.

Reply to message
Where to begin.... - 23/01/2013 05:22:12 AM 5541 Views
I agree. It wasn' a bad book so much as a weak ending - 23/01/2013 05:33:51 AM 1717 Views
Re: Where to begin.... - 23/01/2013 08:26:58 AM 1751 Views
Good to see you still around - 25/01/2013 06:07:55 AM 1648 Views
Re: Where to begin.... - 23/01/2013 01:18:31 PM 1708 Views
Re: Where to begin.... - 23/01/2013 04:11:13 PM 2986 Views
Agreed - 24/01/2013 01:24:52 AM 1701 Views
Brandon was just following Jordan's example in this - 24/01/2013 02:49:44 PM 1867 Views
Not quite - 24/01/2013 04:47:00 PM 1719 Views
Hi Dominic! - 25/01/2013 12:23:05 AM 1853 Views
Eh! - 25/01/2013 04:01:27 AM 1901 Views
Logain was in Merrilor?? - 25/01/2013 07:31:19 AM 1611 Views
And what about the Kin ? - 24/01/2013 03:18:28 PM 1709 Views
Most of the Kin didn't came to Andor with Elayne and Nynaeve - 24/01/2013 03:40:47 PM 1512 Views
Hey John - 24/01/2013 04:04:39 PM 2263 Views
Re: Hey John - 24/01/2013 05:45:30 PM 2156 Views
Yeah, his writing annoys me greatly at times - 24/01/2013 06:57:50 PM 2440 Views
Re: Yeah, his writing annoys me greatly at times - 25/01/2013 04:55:54 AM 1576 Views
I'm as much of a "mainstream" reviewer as a fantasy one these days, so... - 25/01/2013 05:16:16 AM 2069 Views
Re: I'm as much of a "mainstream" reviewer as a fantasy one these days, so... - 25/01/2013 08:37:48 PM 2346 Views
Totally agree about Mat - 27/01/2013 08:01:50 PM 1563 Views
Re: Totally agree about Mat - 27/01/2013 10:19:55 PM 2353 Views
Re: Yeah, his writing annoys me greatly at times - 10/02/2013 08:10:35 AM 1629 Views
At one point he used the word "arabesque" - how can something be that without Arabic culture? *NM* - 24/01/2013 09:25:54 PM 1150 Views
Indeed... - 25/01/2013 03:14:22 AM 1688 Views
What about misuse of titles? - 25/01/2013 06:19:16 AM 1482 Views
I was thinking of that this morning... - 25/01/2013 09:36:48 PM 1570 Views
You still Trolling the WoTBoards Larry? - 24/01/2013 11:06:14 PM 1557 Views
Ha! I've mellowed a bit, though! - 25/01/2013 04:56:47 AM 2253 Views
Been there - 26/01/2013 09:27:10 PM 1459 Views
Hello - 25/01/2013 06:21:04 AM 1391 Views
Back at you, Mark - 25/01/2013 07:46:12 AM 1470 Views
Were you the one who came up with "Selene was Mesaana"? - 25/01/2013 07:44:01 AM 1807 Views
Yep. That was me - 25/01/2013 08:26:37 AM 1626 Views
Re: Yep. That was me - 25/01/2013 08:54:46 AM 1547 Views

Reply to Message