Active Users:1554 Time:01/05/2026 09:25:03 PM
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules
watch it! nossy Send a noteboard - 20/03/2013 08:50:45 PM

View original postNever let it be said that I was too timid to speak my mind. I really would have liked to see the story take some of those tangents, mostly because I always thought RJ was being devilishly clever in his machinizations. He laid the groundwork for many plot-twists, but failed to use most of them, IMHO.

I think you're right. However, I have ALWAYS wondered if we were attributing too much cleverness to him. Or, maybe he really was uber-sneaky, but indulged himself too much to really zero in on the topics (hence the bajillion books that probably would have been better off as 7 or so).
View original postLost in all of this is that Logain was probably set up by Red (Black) Sisters to be a false Dragon. (Most likely ordered by Ishamael). I don't recall if we know for sure Logain's story was made-up to suit Siuan, or if it was actually the truth. Regardless, I think most of us developed an attachment to him while he was in Salidar.

That's true. I mean, I tend to forget which things I "learned" from wotmania (vs picking up from the actual writing), so I don't always realize when I've been gyped. Does that make sense?
View original postWhile on that subject, I always thought it was a foregone conclusion that Taim was set up. That he was captured and then freed before he could be taken to Tar Valon always looked suspicious, and now that we know for fact he was Demandred's minion, speaks that he probably had a hand in it.

Yup.



View original postAs to Aviendha's babies, I haven't seen them discussed, but I think you probably hit the nail on the head. If Rand didn't get her pregnant during their latest tryst, it would be the perfect explanation for why there was something "odd" about them, as per Min's viewing. (That was very insightful of you, BTW ).

See, this is what I miss. I don't feel particularly insightful, I just feel curious about all the different viewings, foreshadowings, etc that don't seem to have had any depth. I mean, Alivia, seriously? Did I miss something?



View original postWhat is more frustrating is that RJ said many times that he knew the ending when he started writing the story. He should have spent some time fleshing it out once the story grew much bigger than I think he originally planned.

I am of the opinion that he meant to beef up the chapters before the epilogue, so we would have presumably received more character content early on (rather than needing such a dose in the epilogue). We keep talking about how our beloved characters were shorted, but that was not a Jordan fault, imo. If anything, he gave us too much detail.
Reply to message
Finally finished it - don't agree with most complainers - thought it was pretty damn good! Anonymous2000 - 09/03/2013 05:17:28 PM 2724 Views
No change Voscaia Sedai - 09/03/2013 09:16:40 PM 1815 Views
I tried a re-read and gave up MikeyMikeyMikey - 09/03/2013 10:37:53 PM 1599 Views
I actually agree with you. LordPerrin - 10/03/2013 01:44:09 AM 1662 Views
I loved it too! *NM* aragornital - 10/03/2013 08:02:08 AM 860 Views
No change here ... Still feels like a rather rushed book that focused too much on a battle and not darius_sedai - 10/03/2013 10:52:17 PM 1555 Views
I agree on the too much battle POV..... Anonymous2000 - 11/03/2013 02:47:59 AM 1411 Views
I quite enjoyed it, don't really understand what all of the fuss is about. everynametaken - 11/03/2013 12:52:56 AM 1680 Views
A few other things..... Anonymous2000 - 11/03/2013 02:58:41 AM 1520 Views
Re: A few other things..... everynametaken - 11/03/2013 04:19:42 PM 1553 Views
Re: A few other things..... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/03/2013 08:31:43 PM 1470 Views
Finished it last night. I don't have to mention that here be spoilers. nossy - 13/03/2013 09:08:07 AM 1626 Views
Re: Finished it last night. I don't have to mention that here be spoilers. echooff - 13/03/2013 10:23:09 AM 1456 Views
That's a really good point. nossy - 14/03/2013 08:03:29 AM 1557 Views
Re: That's a really good point. echooff - 14/03/2013 10:32:10 AM 1394 Views
There's really no reason ... Nate - 20/03/2013 09:19:34 PM 1551 Views
STOP RUINING MY LIFE. *NM* nossy - 20/03/2013 10:43:43 PM 956 Views
Re: Finished it last night. I don't have to mention that here be spoilers. TheUltimateReality - 02/04/2013 01:15:51 PM 1518 Views
Re: Finished it last night. I don't have to mention that here be spoilers. echooff - 04/04/2013 04:16:49 PM 1266 Views
Very true about Nynaeve, she essentially did nothing.....also..... Anonymous2000 - 14/03/2013 03:34:27 AM 1440 Views
Yeah nossy - 14/03/2013 08:12:20 AM 1431 Views
Re: Yeah RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/03/2013 03:01:45 PM 1516 Views
Re: Yeah nossy - 14/03/2013 10:08:59 PM 1498 Views
Re: I thought it was OK RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/03/2013 07:38:10 PM 1390 Views
Have you been reading down the page? nossy - 14/03/2013 08:01:32 AM 1699 Views
Re: Have you been reading down the page? Dunstan - 14/03/2013 04:01:23 PM 1465 Views
Mine was Graendal. nossy - 14/03/2013 10:05:29 PM 1508 Views
Isn't it a thing of Channelers? Voscaia Sedai - 15/03/2013 06:19:44 PM 1710 Views
Yeah, and warders. nossy - 15/03/2013 07:28:14 PM 1410 Views
Hi Nossy Light in the Night - 18/03/2013 11:23:25 AM 1461 Views
I'm getting the feeling that you may not have wanted to type that up. nossy - 18/03/2013 09:00:56 PM 1543 Views
Hah! Light in the Night - 19/03/2013 10:01:15 AM 1441 Views
watch it! nossy - 20/03/2013 08:50:45 PM 1556 Views
Am I going mad, or did the title of this thread change and then change back? *NM* Nighthawk - 14/03/2013 05:42:15 PM 815 Views
You are sane. For now. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/03/2013 08:23:01 PM 1567 Views
it's like not getting a star wars film for 18 years, then when it finally gets made and released.... moondog - 15/03/2013 09:46:55 PM 1711 Views
Back to Messageboard Post New Thread Search Help Stats Rules

Reply to Message

Block Quote Paragraph Quote
Formatting
Smiley Codes