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It's coming along Cannoli Send a noteboard - 12/08/2015 12:24:39 AM

It's taking me forever to pick the relevant material out of aMoL. I just passed her witnessing Gareth Bryne's screw-ups. The last things I wrote were a comment on her arguments with Tuon:

18: Upon meeting Fortuona, Egwene’s first words are accusing her of committing atrocities. Which she has not done, and Egwene cannot lie, so that makes her an idiot. The worst thing Fortuona has done, and really, the only bad thing, has been to maintain the institution of damane, which differs from the White Tower in that they are frank and open and use physical collars, rather than psychological torture to brainwash initiates into submitting to their agenda, and murdering the ones who prove resistant to their persuasion. No matter how you slice it, “Convert or die” is not one iota more moral a way to treat other people than slavery. And the subjects of the Tower’s teaching have no more choice in undergoing it than a damane does. At the very least, maintaining an unpleasant institution during your first month or so in power is not remotely an “atrocity”. In any event, there is no point to Egwene’s comments, in response to an explanation from Fortuona, she makes pointless comments just to have something to say. So, yay, Egwene. Way to demonstrate a cooperative attitude in the middle of Tarmon-freaking-Gaidon.

Later on, during their negotiations, Egwene makes what she thinks is a tenuous argument. She thinks so, because it rests on the rule of law, while Egwene herself adheres more to a “might makes right” mentality.

Egwene’s argument about Tremalking is also remarkable display of moronic fucktardery, even for this book, as it hinges upon the acceptance of the acceptance of the inhabitants of the lands of the Seanchan rule. The Sea Folk don’t live there and don’t want to live there, regarding their sojourns on the land as a temporary ordeal, making their claim of sovereignty over their islands akin to a land nation claiming sovereignty over the ocean. And Egwene has no authority for arguing on their behalf. The actual inhabitants of the land, the Amayar, are all dead (A certain notorious Aegwenist being the co-winner of the contest that predicted as much way the hell back a decade ago). There is, technically, no one bowing to the Seanchan on Tremalking, but neither is there anyone contesting their authority. That Egwene would make such a spurious argument is par for the course. That the Seanchan might be impressed by it, as a demonstration of their respect for law is pure


Cannoli
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“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
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Where's the finale, Cannoli? - 05/08/2015 09:21:16 PM 749 Views
Agreed, very much looking to the final installment/s *NM* - 07/08/2015 10:56:39 PM 259 Views
It's coming along - 12/08/2015 12:24:39 AM 478 Views

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