True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal
		thebestrob Send a noteboard - 30/10/2009 02:57:09 PM
		
	
		
			
				OK - a bit of a mixed bag here, but first post here since wotmania so forgive me.  
 
So we now know that Rand has access to the True Power - what do you think is the significance of it? I'm thinking something along the lines of:
1. True Power could be used to replace Saidin as the power that "touched the dark one" when sealing him back up.
2. True Power could be used to kill the Dark One altogether as Rand seems to be considering more in this book.
3. It's just there to show how close Rand was getting to the Dark One himself. i.e. more like Moridin every day.
Also - during Rand's epiphany when he's questioning why he's fighting, he comes onto the subject of love, and how he's doing this all again to have a second chance. He mentions that "she might have been reborn". which i took to mean Ilyena. What do you think the significance of this is? Could it go back to the old theory that Ilyena was reborn into three bodies (i.e. Avi, Elayne and Min?). Or just musing on Rand's part?
and now that the Choedan Kal is gone, the importance of the chapter where Min and Caddy are talking about the Callandor are more clear. But Rand's clearly going to need that kind of power in the battle with the dark one - why destroy the Choedan Kal? Was it just Rand's way to showing that he shouldn't have that kind of power so readily available? Or do you think there was some other significance?
			
		
	
	 
 So we now know that Rand has access to the True Power - what do you think is the significance of it? I'm thinking something along the lines of:
1. True Power could be used to replace Saidin as the power that "touched the dark one" when sealing him back up.
2. True Power could be used to kill the Dark One altogether as Rand seems to be considering more in this book.
3. It's just there to show how close Rand was getting to the Dark One himself. i.e. more like Moridin every day.
Also - during Rand's epiphany when he's questioning why he's fighting, he comes onto the subject of love, and how he's doing this all again to have a second chance. He mentions that "she might have been reborn". which i took to mean Ilyena. What do you think the significance of this is? Could it go back to the old theory that Ilyena was reborn into three bodies (i.e. Avi, Elayne and Min?). Or just musing on Rand's part?
and now that the Choedan Kal is gone, the importance of the chapter where Min and Caddy are talking about the Callandor are more clear. But Rand's clearly going to need that kind of power in the battle with the dark one - why destroy the Choedan Kal? Was it just Rand's way to showing that he shouldn't have that kind of power so readily available? Or do you think there was some other significance?
		
			True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal
		
	         - 30/10/2009 02:57:09 PM
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			I agree with you
	    
	         - 30/10/2009 03:24:22 PM
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			don't forget you can't touch the true power without the DO's permission
	    
	         - 30/10/2009 03:31:25 PM
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			I think he will overlook it
	    
	         - 30/10/2009 03:46:25 PM
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			It also might be that Rand used Moridin as a conduit, making the DO's permission irrelevant.
	    
	         - 30/10/2009 03:58:04 PM
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			Indeed... Moridin is definitely worried about the connection
	    
	         - 30/10/2009 03:59:59 PM
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			Right
	    
	         - 30/10/2009 04:06:26 PM
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			i agree it was def in the DO's best interests to give it to rand THEN, just not when....
	    
	         - 30/10/2009 05:57:03 PM
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			Seems to me destroying the DO with balefire would take a force equal to his.
	    
	         - 06/11/2009 09:57:47 AM
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			I think the TP IS the DO - sealing the Bore with it is illogical and impossible.
	    
	         - 27/11/2009 12:13:29 AM
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			Re: True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal
	    
	         - 30/10/2009 03:28:06 PM
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	         - 30/10/2009 03:36:00 PM
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			Re: True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal
	    
	         - 30/10/2009 09:48:46 PM
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			Hello! The TP can only be used with permission!
	    
	         - 30/10/2009 10:45:58 PM
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			Nope
	    
	         - 31/10/2009 05:18:03 AM
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			I'm sorry that's wrong...
	    
	         - 31/10/2009 08:58:14 AM
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			Believe what you want
	    
	         - 31/10/2009 09:08:52 AM
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			The Foresaken had their permission revoked, but the DO can enact consequences on them...
	    
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