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Re: True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal thebestrob Send a noteboard - 30/10/2009 03:36:00 PM

A The Light clearly has the overwhelming advantage in channelers and so angreal and sa'angreal may in some ways be more dangerous than helpful if the Shadow should obtain any, ESPECIALLY one such as the Choedan Kal, which we know they have lusted after. But I do wonder, is it more than that? The final moment describes the actual sa'angreal as even more powerful than anything being channeled through the access key, so perhaps it was actually too powerful for the pattern to deal with. Much to think about and thanks for your post!!

LoialT :]


Does the light really have the overwhelming advantage in channelers? There were some 250 black ajah mentioned in Verin's notebook out of how many? Plus the black tower is a festering hole of shadow lords if Taim's influence is as strong as it seems at the end of KOD. I guess there's the windfinders, Aiel and Seanchan, but i figure that many of those would also be black - plus with the opportunities for AOL forsaken to teach them new weaves, i wonder whether it just seems that the light has the advantage in channelers because we see the story primarily from their point of view.

If i recall correctly, by the end of the AOL/war of shadows, the Aes Sedai were split about 50:50, and the war was very close - I'd assume a similar pattern this time around.

just food for thought...
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True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal thebestrob - 30/10/2009 02:57:09 PM 3002 Views
Re: True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal Myrdhyn - 30/10/2009 03:05:52 PM 1169 Views
I agree with you Sidious - 30/10/2009 03:24:22 PM 1286 Views
don't forget you can't touch the true power without the DO's permission mazza3 - 30/10/2009 03:31:25 PM 1084 Views
I think he will overlook it Sidious - 30/10/2009 03:46:25 PM 1081 Views
It also might be that Rand used Moridin as a conduit, making the DO's permission irrelevant. RandAllThor - 30/10/2009 03:58:04 PM 1042 Views
Indeed... Moridin is definitely worried about the connection Sidious - 30/10/2009 03:59:59 PM 1150 Views
Right RandAllThor - 30/10/2009 04:06:26 PM 1263 Views
i agree it was def in the DO's best interests to give it to rand THEN, just not when.... mazza3 - 30/10/2009 05:57:03 PM 1191 Views
Seems to me destroying the DO with balefire would take a force equal to his. The Name With No Man - 06/11/2009 09:57:47 AM 913 Views
I think the TP IS the DO - sealing the Bore with it is illogical and impossible. Lord Haart - 27/11/2009 12:13:29 AM 855 Views
Re: True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal LoialT - 30/10/2009 03:28:06 PM 2251 Views
Re: True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal thebestrob - 30/10/2009 03:36:00 PM 1222 Views
Re: True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal LoialT - 30/10/2009 09:48:46 PM 1056 Views
where'd you get the number of Rand's Asha'man? Deadsy - 30/10/2009 10:12:00 PM 902 Views
Re: where'd you get the number of Rand's Asha'man? LoialT - 31/10/2009 12:28:48 AM 892 Views
I must be confused then cougar10 - 30/10/2009 06:11:38 PM 989 Views
No... you're right. beetnemesis - 30/10/2009 07:02:05 PM 963 Views
Hello! The TP can only be used with permission! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2009 10:45:58 PM 1062 Views
Nope Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:18:03 AM 1442 Views
I'm sorry that's wrong... fionwe1987 - 31/10/2009 08:58:14 AM 976 Views
Believe what you want Sidious - 31/10/2009 09:08:52 AM 983 Views
No, he's right beetnemesis - 31/10/2009 04:59:34 PM 1118 Views
That's what I said *NM* Sidious - 31/10/2009 05:24:55 PM 457 Views
I don't need your permission for that... fionwe1987 - 31/10/2009 09:57:34 PM 904 Views
Re: I don't need your permission for that... Sidious - 01/11/2009 06:54:20 AM 894 Views
You are incorrect darius_sedai - 27/12/2009 10:44:36 PM 891 Views
you're counting on the DO of being absent minded? Japhy - 17/04/2010 10:59:41 PM 856 Views
The Foresaken had their permission revoked, but the DO can enact consequences on them... FanEditor10 - 29/04/2010 04:35:27 AM 1017 Views
I think using the TP against the DO is wishful thinking. redhand - 31/10/2009 04:33:33 PM 967 Views
Generally agree. Joel - 06/11/2009 09:07:57 AM 1012 Views
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