Your point has some validity for the actual Seanchan damane.
Legolas Send a noteboard - 31/10/2009 06:43:40 PM
All the angoy Egwene felt at the hands of Seanchan could be replaced by her angoy at trying to run away from WT, getting caught and beaten by MoN, being sent to a farm for hard labor, being shielded or forkrooted to control her channeling, ...
Being a perfect damane will be replaced by being a prefect AS. The training method of Seanchan is not much different from the trainning method of the WT. Both are brainwashed to believe they are doing the greater good, no matter what the outsiders say to them.
Though even there you exaggerate by equating the two, as damane are treated more like animals than anything else - remember the thing with the titles, "der'suldam" in analogy with "der'toraken" and the other officers in charge of animals. The Tower treatment of novices and Accepted is harsh at times, but honestly not even in the same league, excepting of course what they do to Egwene, under rather special circumstances. Aiel treatment of Wise One apprentices is still harsher, but also not remotely as bad - hard, but fair.
But when you get to the topic of leashed marath'damane, the captured Aes Sedai and Sea Folk and others, including Egwene in The Great Hunt, the comparison becomes completely absurd. There we are talking about intentionally breaking people, abusing and harrassing and torturing them until they break. TGH Egwene admittedly hadn't had her Aiel training yet, and was not yet resistant to pain like she is in KoD and tGS, but you'll note that it's not the pain itself that is most vivid in her nightmares and memories, but the being broken, the part of her that *wants* to please the suldam.
Is anyone angered by the Seanchan and a'dam?
- 30/10/2009 11:14:00 PM
1736 Views
Yes, but not me
- 30/10/2009 11:32:45 PM
1006 Views
Re: Is anyone angry by the Seanchan and A'dam
- 30/10/2009 11:39:45 PM
1139 Views
Re: Is anyone angry by the Seanchan and A'dam
- 30/10/2009 11:45:29 PM
987 Views
Except the Seanchan are not spoiled chidlren who mistake "wishful thinking" for a plan
- 31/10/2009 04:48:45 AM
1036 Views
Or he could have used the Choedan Kal
- 31/10/2009 12:21:42 PM
978 Views
What Choedan Kal? *NM*
- 31/10/2009 10:15:24 PM
396 Views
For what?
- 31/10/2009 12:03:57 AM
976 Views
if he was it wasn't on purpose. I think he was just actively trying to use his ta'verenness *NM*
- 31/10/2009 12:15:32 AM
399 Views
I dont think it's compulsion.
- 31/10/2009 12:16:00 AM
897 Views
Actually, I think it's the other way around.
- 31/10/2009 12:21:49 AM
869 Views
- 31/10/2009 12:21:49 AM
869 Views
I don't care for Tuon at all. I'd be okay if her and the Seanchan were obliterated. *NM*
- 31/10/2009 12:44:22 AM
403 Views
And how is that any different from me with Egwene (except she & I are the same race)? *NM*
- 31/10/2009 04:51:17 AM
409 Views
Why not Highlords in Tear?
- 31/10/2009 02:10:07 AM
986 Views
You dont really get it.
- 31/10/2009 12:23:35 PM
853 Views
Not at all. Their position is perfectly justified by their experiences.
- 31/10/2009 04:29:25 AM
966 Views
The a'dam and leashing of channelers does not change the fact that the OP can be misued...
- 31/10/2009 09:17:20 AM
949 Views
Which is why people should NOT be MORE angered toward Seanchan than toward WT.
- 31/10/2009 06:22:13 PM
849 Views
That's complete hogwash.
- 31/10/2009 10:23:50 PM
892 Views
Using the word "Hogwash" is inviting flames, but I will be nice about it
- 01/11/2009 05:44:16 AM
913 Views
Re: Using the word "Hogwash" is inviting flames, but I will be nice about it
- 05/11/2009 02:54:52 AM
1190 Views
Well that was rather silly.
- 31/10/2009 12:27:03 PM
812 Views
And a generation later, the same old problem arises. New channelers, with no one to stop them.
- 31/10/2009 10:28:35 PM
812 Views
Several valid points...
- 31/10/2009 05:17:09 PM
909 Views
I wonder what if Egwene happen to be a child kidnapped at Flame and sent to WT
- 31/10/2009 06:30:34 PM
896 Views
Your point has some validity for the actual Seanchan damane.
- 31/10/2009 06:43:40 PM
975 Views
The sul'dam should be destroyed
- 31/10/2009 05:14:06 AM
838 Views
The people themselves shouldn't be.
- 31/10/2009 05:26:08 AM
867 Views
Only the Empress can remove the custom
- 31/10/2009 05:48:09 AM
842 Views
Due to their conditioning.
- 31/10/2009 06:03:32 AM
862 Views
She will
(and ya, sul'dam become sul'dam from age 13-18 usually) *NM*
- 31/10/2009 06:12:48 AM
404 Views
(and ya, sul'dam become sul'dam from age 13-18 usually) *NM*
- 31/10/2009 06:12:48 AM
404 Views
I think the a'dam is the perfect solution for Blacks and the Shaido 'Wise Ones'.
- 01/11/2009 02:51:27 AM
926 Views
