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The forsaken are still pretty tough. shadar Send a noteboard - 04/11/2009 01:24:01 AM
As have the Forsaken, for that matter.

The Forsaken were even cooler and more bad-ass, and - although the story wouldn't be as good without Rand killing a few of them off in epic duels - they die way too easily, and apparently everyone and their grandmother is stronger than them in the Power.


So according to 13D there are 5 women stronger than Moggy (who is the weakest). And only Alivia is stronger than Mesaana and Semirhage (although Sharina is on their level).
http://13depository.blogspot.com/2009/02/saidar-strength-ranking.html

As for the boys - never been quite clear, other than the fact that Rand is stronger than all of them. Taim might be close in strength, as is Logain, but the Male Forsaken are all pretty strong.


As for what they've done:
* Be'lal had Rand (who was inexperienced) until Moiraine saved him.
* Rahvin had beaten/exhausted Rand until Nyn/Moggy showed up.
* Sammy had Rand trapped/killed/stuck in SL until Moridin saved him
* Semirhage/SH had Rand until Rand used the TP (which may have been SH's plan and a win for the dark)

So Rand has beaten in his own right: Ishy, Asmo, Aginor

The "Hero" of the Light and the one who the Dark One himself declares as his arch enemy - has been out-gunned repeatedly but saved by others. (That's how fiction works)

For other examples see Moggy (the weakest) taking out Liandrin while injured.
And look at the world - they've done a pretty good job of spreading chaos.
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The forsaken are still pretty tough. shadar - 04/11/2009 01:24:01 AM 820 Views
They are as tough as any arrogant, scheming idiots with power to back up their shallowness can be RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 04:06:18 PM 621 Views
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The captured damane will train them in battle weaves Sandwich - 16/11/2009 02:14:24 AM 621 Views
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