Not necessarily true (Plus, another possibility)...
fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 13/11/2009 07:43:37 AM
Even if 5 women created the shield, if you reduce it to just 1 woman to hold it, then the strength of the shield is that of the 1 woman holding it.
We see examples of this. Even though 13 women created Rand's shield, 6 were enough to hold it, but 3 were not.
So although you can reduce the number of women holding the shield sligthly, due to the difficulty in breaking through an existing shield, you cannot reduce it dramatically, as in to just 1 or 2 people, if the captive is much stronger than the shielders.
An average strength Aes Sedai simply cannot maintain a shield on Semirhage, even if it was created by 10 women. The number that created it makes no difference. It's current strength is dependent on the number of women currenlty holding it in place.
We see examples of this. Even though 13 women created Rand's shield, 6 were enough to hold it, but 3 were not.
So although you can reduce the number of women holding the shield sligthly, due to the difficulty in breaking through an existing shield, you cannot reduce it dramatically, as in to just 1 or 2 people, if the captive is much stronger than the shielders.
An average strength Aes Sedai simply cannot maintain a shield on Semirhage, even if it was created by 10 women. The number that created it makes no difference. It's current strength is dependent on the number of women currenlty holding it in place.
While your argument is convincing, there is some prior evidence against it.
For example, given Egwene's strength (she's at full potential), there is simply no way Silviana can hold her shield, yet she does in the prologue of KoD. Amys mentions the difficulty of holding Egwene, and by Egwene's own estimation, Amys is stronger than Silviana or equal to her.
The only difference between Amys' shield and Silviana's is that it is entirely possible Barasine and Katerine linked to shield Egwene, and Silviana could still hold Egwene because she merely assumed the shield.
Should this be the case, it could be that a moderately strong Aes Sedai could indeed hold Semirhage, as long as the initial shield was woven by more than three women (am I right on the minimum here?).
Also, could it be that Cadsuane meant that if she left woman alone with an angreal, the woman can hold Semirhage, but the angreal was just not mentioned? That would certainly work, and be a minor mistake.
Semirhage's strength in the Power...
- 12/11/2009 06:57:37 AM
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No you did not...
- 12/11/2009 07:27:06 AM
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I'll look again tonight, but I'm sure Nynaeve made a comment...
- 12/11/2009 07:33:29 AM
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Actually, Nynaeave is far stronger than Moghedian now
- 12/11/2009 12:30:29 PM
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We DON'T know that Graendal is stronger than Semirhage and Mesaana...
- 12/11/2009 12:48:32 PM
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Inconsistency?
- 12/11/2009 08:53:39 AM
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Holding a shield vs. making one...
- 12/11/2009 03:19:09 PM
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Don't they clearly say one single would suffice but they used 2 for
- 13/11/2009 04:57:15 AM
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To HOLD her. Didn't I make the distinction clear?
- 13/11/2009 05:04:58 AM
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Reducing the number of people holding the shield, reduces the strength of the shield correspondingly
- 13/11/2009 07:15:24 AM
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Not necessarily true (Plus, another possibility)...
- 13/11/2009 07:43:37 AM
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I agree about the angreal, but not the 1 woman shield part...
- 13/11/2009 07:50:26 AM
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Agree to disagree?
- 13/11/2009 08:07:59 AM
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Sure, just a couple of points...
- 13/11/2009 08:18:15 AM
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Re: Sure, just a couple of points...
- 13/11/2009 08:51:28 AM
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Interesting concept...
- 13/11/2009 08:59:53 AM
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The answer lies in a fundamental difference between spinning and maintaining a weave...
- 13/11/2009 09:33:00 AM
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Yeah, I posted on this
- 12/11/2009 08:53:26 PM
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Hmmm....
- 13/11/2009 12:42:37 AM
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Mesaana thought she matched Semirhage
- 13/11/2009 01:45:09 AM
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Re: Hmmm....
- 13/11/2009 06:56:56 AM
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I think Sanderson just doesn't have the interest and knowledge of relative strength that RJ did..
- 13/11/2009 07:07:45 AM
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Re: Hmmm....
- 13/11/2009 07:59:57 AM
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The reason behind our (certainly MY) hesitance to place Nynaeve too high, is Alivia...
- 13/11/2009 08:04:51 AM
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There is a simple answer... skill...
- 13/11/2009 08:21:25 AM
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Except that...
- 13/11/2009 08:49:15 AM
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What about Sharina?
- 13/11/2009 09:17:20 AM
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No evidence either way, but you leave a massive gap between Lanfear and the average Forsaken...
- 13/11/2009 09:31:27 AM
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I don't think it's massive
- 13/11/2009 09:46:27 AM
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