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Agree to disagree? fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 13/11/2009 08:07:59 AM
While I'm not saying the one woman shield is proved correct, I'm going to hold that it is a possibility. But lets move past that.

Two women could hold Nynaeve in CoS, and there is a big gap between Egwene and Nynaeve. Egwene admits this herself. So it might well be possible that 1 woman can hold Egwene. I cannot recall where Silviana lies on the strength table. My calculations in the past indicated that a woman could hold a shield on someone as long as you were approximately 60% as strong as the captive. But to shield them in the first place, with any degree of certainty, you had to be as much as 50% STRONGER than them.

I agree with that shielding theory. Silviana has been traditionally placed as an equal to Leanne, and she is, at the very least, as strong as Katerine, who is a very strong Aes Sedai.
What I'm saying is that in my view, if you are 60% as strong as someone, you should be able to hold an existing shield on them.

I remember the number we had all agreed to be 66%. But the principle is the same.
So if Silviana is a 25 on the strenghth scale, and Egwene is a 40, that makes Silviana just over 60% as strong as Egwene, and hence she should be able to hold the shield.

Then why couldn't Amys? Amys is as strong as Elaida and Moiraine, and there's no way Silviana is stronger. And Egwene is likely even stronger now than she was when Amys tried to hold her.
This was an issue I raised even when KoD was released, and I believe that the only explanation is that when the Shield was woven, Katerine and Barasine were linked.
Regarding an angreal. That changes the picture completely. 1 Woman with a powerful enough angreal could hold Rand himself.

Yup. Maybe Cadsuane gave her angreal to one of the sisters, but still wanted extra guards.
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Semirhage's strength in the Power... Shannow - 12/11/2009 06:57:37 AM 1468 Views
No you did not... fionwe1987 - 12/11/2009 07:27:06 AM 1047 Views
I'll look again tonight, but I'm sure Nynaeve made a comment... Shannow - 12/11/2009 07:33:29 AM 1054 Views
Actually, Nynaeave is far stronger than Moghedian now LordScimitar - 12/11/2009 12:30:29 PM 1001 Views
We DON'T know that Graendal is stronger than Semirhage and Mesaana... Shannow - 12/11/2009 12:48:32 PM 1124 Views
Wasn't that rather meaningless? fionwe1987 - 12/11/2009 03:26:22 PM 1113 Views
Inconsistency? Lord o' Salv - 12/11/2009 08:53:39 AM 977 Views
Holding a shield vs. making one... fionwe1987 - 12/11/2009 03:19:09 PM 950 Views
Don't they clearly say one single would suffice but they used 2 for Lord o' Salv - 13/11/2009 04:57:15 AM 877 Views
To HOLD her. Didn't I make the distinction clear? fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 05:04:58 AM 852 Views
Reducing the number of people holding the shield, reduces the strength of the shield correspondingly Shannow - 13/11/2009 07:15:24 AM 819 Views
Not necessarily true (Plus, another possibility)... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 07:43:37 AM 840 Views
I agree about the angreal, but not the 1 woman shield part... Shannow - 13/11/2009 07:50:26 AM 910 Views
Agree to disagree? fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:07:59 AM 840 Views
Sure, just a couple of points... Shannow - 13/11/2009 08:18:15 AM 963 Views
Re: Sure, just a couple of points... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:51:28 AM 970 Views
Interesting concept... Shannow - 13/11/2009 08:59:53 AM 968 Views
The answer lies in a fundamental difference between spinning and maintaining a weave... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:33:00 AM 1084 Views
Yeah, I posted on this Sidious - 12/11/2009 08:53:26 PM 954 Views
Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 12:42:37 AM 974 Views
Mesaana thought she matched Semirhage catkin - 13/11/2009 01:45:09 AM 1085 Views
Agree with many points Lord o' Salv - 13/11/2009 05:07:53 AM 970 Views
Re: Agree with many points fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 05:16:12 AM 827 Views
And that means nothing... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 05:08:44 AM 960 Views
Re: Hmmm.... Sidious - 13/11/2009 06:56:56 AM 904 Views
I think Sanderson just doesn't have the interest and knowledge of relative strength that RJ did.. Shannow - 13/11/2009 07:07:45 AM 890 Views
Re: Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 07:59:57 AM 982 Views
The reason behind our (certainly MY) hesitance to place Nynaeve too high, is Alivia... Shannow - 13/11/2009 08:04:51 AM 993 Views
There is a simple answer... skill... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:21:25 AM 974 Views
Except that... Shannow - 13/11/2009 08:49:15 AM 963 Views
We only assume that... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:08:56 AM 997 Views
Well... Shannow - 13/11/2009 09:25:08 AM 990 Views
fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:53:39 AM 840 Views
What about Sharina? Sidious - 13/11/2009 09:17:20 AM 845 Views
No evidence either way, but you leave a massive gap between Lanfear and the average Forsaken... Shannow - 13/11/2009 09:31:27 AM 979 Views
I don't think it's massive Sidious - 13/11/2009 09:46:27 AM 958 Views
I disagree with your last comment Shannow - 13/11/2009 09:58:03 AM 990 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 13/11/2009 03:57:48 PM 972 Views
Re: Hmm... Watcher - 13/11/2009 07:54:23 PM 968 Views
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