Two things come to mind, that I don't think the Rebels/Egwenists/War Hawks can defend.
1. Did Egwene and the Rebels cause Elaida's downfall?
2. Did Egwene and the Rebels expedite Elaida's downfall?
I don't see any way that anyone can truthfully answer "yes" to either question.
For 1) I think it is is a mix of Elaida's own undoing and ultimately the Seanchan death blow.
For 2) there is nothing. Nothing that Egwene and the Rebels did caused sped up the process in any way.
So... what exactly did the whole side-plot accomplish? Even if Egwene and the Rebels had just went along and conceded, Elaida would still have been captured in her sleep, at exactly the same moment.
Seems like a rather lengthy aside to to put a specific person (Egwene) on the Amyrlin's Seat.
1. Did Egwene and the Rebels cause Elaida's downfall?
2. Did Egwene and the Rebels expedite Elaida's downfall?
I don't see any way that anyone can truthfully answer "yes" to either question.
For 1) I think it is is a mix of Elaida's own undoing and ultimately the Seanchan death blow.
For 2) there is nothing. Nothing that Egwene and the Rebels did caused sped up the process in any way.
So... what exactly did the whole side-plot accomplish? Even if Egwene and the Rebels had just went along and conceded, Elaida would still have been captured in her sleep, at exactly the same moment.
Seems like a rather lengthy aside to to put a specific person (Egwene) on the Amyrlin's Seat.
When Rand went to meet Tuon, he tried very hard to "force" her into a truce. (Recall how he threatened to turn the Pattern to his will and kill Cadsuane earlier? ) Rand was trying to do just that very thing to get Tuon to comply.
However, through her own force of will, Tuon resisted, and thus set the stage for the Seanchan raid on the WT that ultimately put Egwene on the Amyrlin Seat. Say what you want, but the Pattern demanded that result and it got it.
This message last edited by BlackAdder on 19/11/2009 at 08:22:46 PM
The more I think about it (Egwene and the Rebels)
- 19/11/2009 08:07:50 PM
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The Pattern "willed" it.
- 19/11/2009 08:18:56 PM
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Well, yeah. I agree with that. *NM*
- 19/11/2009 08:22:34 PM
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I don't really agree.
- 19/11/2009 08:22:20 PM
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Assume there was no Rebellion
- 19/11/2009 10:06:28 PM
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Couldn't be more wrong - delete this evidence-less thread
- 21/11/2009 06:36:35 PM
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OK...?
- 21/11/2009 10:16:43 PM
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You made the assertion, it's not my responsibility to disprove you,
- 22/11/2009 04:35:14 PM
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Re: You made the assertion, it's not my responsibility to disprove you,
- 23/11/2009 11:37:03 AM
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Egwene could've done most of what she did without screentime. *NM*
- 19/12/2009 07:30:14 PM
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