However, I cannot see how unswearing the Dark Oath is not a direct betrayal, knowing what the BA Hunters plan to ask, and probably what they would seek to gain from further interrogation (other BA identities, plots, etc.)
It's been a long time since I read that scene, but seems to me they didn't exactly leave her a choice in the matter.
The Hunters crowded her as Talene tried to leave. That was all we saw.
I don't know if Talene resisted physically or with the OP. It probably would have been mentioned instead of being cut short like that if she did.
Interestingly, we find out that Talene escaped in tGS. I assume she is still bound to the First Oath. And also unbound to the DO?!
Using some sort of virtual reality chair until she crumbles and swears their oaths. But she still does it without coercion, err sort of.
The BA Hunters and their methodology (tGS spoilers)
- 19/11/2009 02:16:20 PM
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It probably has to be a direct betrayal
- 19/11/2009 02:53:19 PM
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Yup, totally.
- 19/11/2009 05:45:45 PM
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Possible reason for the loophole
- 19/11/2009 06:04:12 PM
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Re: Possible reason for the loophole
- 19/11/2009 06:36:21 PM
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Could be in that moment
- 19/11/2009 09:04:59 PM
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But the DO had Rand's mother - don't think she was a DF *NM*
- 21/11/2009 06:43:17 PM
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Could have been an illusion. We really know nothing of what happens to souls
- 24/12/2009 08:14:05 PM
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Re: It probably has to be a direct betrayal
- 19/11/2009 06:41:03 PM
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But wasn't Talene *forced* to do that?
- 19/11/2009 08:05:48 PM
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That and any oath on the Oath Rod relies very heavily on the swearer's interpretation of the oath.
- 19/11/2009 07:30:55 PM
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*NM*
*NM*
True. There's a scene where Cadsuane is told about Aiel in the city and she says "I hadn't noticed."
- 19/11/2009 08:21:52 PM
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Unless she's Black Ajah 
Just kidding.
- 19/11/2009 08:59:49 PM
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Just kidding.
- 19/11/2009 08:59:49 PM
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Maybe that's the real reason she's now taken to wearing a black hood! 
*NM*
- 19/11/2009 09:02:06 PM
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*NM*
- 19/11/2009 09:02:06 PM
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There's reason to believe that if any AS removed the Oaths from themselves, it's Cadsuane. *NM*
- 01/12/2009 04:44:00 PM
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Bigger loophole
- 21/11/2009 06:46:42 PM
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True, but again perspective seems to determine what is a lie and what isn't
- 21/11/2009 10:19:19 PM
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