Is it possible that after Mashadar destroyed Sammael, that Padan Fain gained the ability to take on his form in order to command Trollocs and etc? We've seen ridiculously creepy things done before by Padan Fain (blowing up like a balloon and etc) and I just think that since Mashadar is still in the Ways, perhaps this is an additional power he has gained.
Machin Shin is the Black Wind in the ways. When it gets close, you can hear voices (presumably the voices of souls that it has stolen).
Mashadar is a fog in Shadar Logoth that is a residue of the hate of Aridhol that can consume people.
Padan Fain (now merged with Mordeth) was attacked by Machin Shin. The Black Wind then fled him, presumably because it had acquired his desire to hunt Rand.
Why do you assume they are the same?
Not familiar with Padan Fain.
- 20/11/2009 09:19:54 PM
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He still wouldn't have the Forsaken Mark that forces Shadowspawn to obey. *NM*
- 20/11/2009 10:54:39 PM
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Perhaps he can re-create it now that Sammael has been absorbed by Mashadar. *NM*
- 21/11/2009 01:13:04 AM
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I see no reason to believe that, if the best evidence for it is that it is not impossible. *NM*
- 21/11/2009 04:03:08 AM
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Doesn't he still have the mark of the Dark One from being Tracker Fain? *NM*
- 20/11/2009 11:00:18 PM
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That would be different from the Forsaken Mark
- 21/11/2009 02:37:34 AM
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Mashadar is not Machin Shin
- 21/11/2009 02:22:31 PM
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Wait a second...
- 21/11/2009 05:55:50 PM
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My mini-theory has to do with Mordeth/Mashadar choosing Sammael as a new vessel for itself.
- 23/11/2009 05:40:00 PM
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Hmmm
- 24/11/2009 03:08:36 AM
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I think that Sammael presents advantages that Fain's body doesn't.
- 24/11/2009 02:25:16 PM
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