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But, in the interest of DRAMA, the Shadow's forces would first need to be on the edge of victory... Shannow Send a noteboard - 26/11/2009 07:29:44 PM
Argh. I'm not going to argue anymore. I'm not saying that you're wrong.

I'm just saying that the 90% of Wot that has been based on military buildup, political maneuvres and the gathering of channelers has all been for nothing, then.

All that will matter is Rand's internal struggle.

That will be incredibly lame.

A story about the War of Power would have been far more entertaining then, or even the Trolloc Wars.

All this incredible build-up, for 3000 years, and 12 books, only for Rand to cross some emotional rubicon.




Who was the focal point of the Strike at Shayol Ghul... Lews Therin and the Companions, or the 10,000 warmen who went along. The warmen were the distraction for the Blight while Lews Therin sealed it up.

It's going to be the same with the Final Battle. Rand will enter the Pit of Doom and have some sort of battle with Moridin. The rest of the world will be off at some token battle, but as soon as Rand destroys Moridin and seals off the Dark One, it's likely that every Trolloc will suddenly die, or run away, or be swallowed by some earthquake. It will be very LOTR.

The Dragon has metaphysical power, especially to bend the Pattern. It's not a military thing.


It's all very well for Rand to decide the final outcome, but for there to be any suspense, the Light must be at the point of total defeat right then.

And that tension will certainly not be created if the Light has been defeating the Shadow hordes in every major battle through the superior tactics of their genius level leaders.

No, the Shadow has to have overwhelmed most of the human lands by that point, and must be on the verge of overrunning the last human defenses, probably in Tear, Illain, Ebou Dar and maybe Andor, just like in the War of Power. Back then, the Shadow was on the verge of victory when Lews Therin launched his desperate strike at Shayol Ghul.

The same will have to be the case when Rand assaults Shayol Ghul again. And for that to happen, the Shadow's military forces somehow need to overcome the great military minds of the Light.

Believe me, this story won't end with the Shadow held at bay at Tarwin's Gap, and maybe raiding a few random countries further south, while Rand attacks Shayol Ghul.

No, it will be a far more desperate situation than that. So, to get there, Demandred and Taim are going to have to shoulder a heck of a lot of responsibility, unless the Shadow has more able leaders hidden away up their sleeve somewhere.
This message last edited by Shannow on 26/11/2009 at 07:30:23 PM
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The Shadow's command structure in the Last Battle... Shannow - 26/11/2009 09:30:46 AM 1011 Views
Ummm... fionwe1987 - 26/11/2009 09:49:37 AM 574 Views
Re: Ummm... Watcher - 26/11/2009 11:21:37 AM 521 Views
To me that's a poor argument. Not you, but rather this viewpoint, which has been raised before... Shannow - 26/11/2009 11:55:17 AM 607 Views
+1 AgentOrange - 26/11/2009 02:46:37 PM 600 Views
It is not that simple... fionwe1987 - 26/11/2009 07:08:10 PM 527 Views
It doesn't really matter... Etzel - 26/11/2009 01:56:05 PM 553 Views
What is the point then? Shannow - 26/11/2009 02:05:15 PM 528 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 26/11/2009 02:52:39 PM 501 Views
There'll be a physical battle Ryan - 26/11/2009 02:54:07 PM 490 Views
exactly! Rand v DO is the fight for existance, Trollocs vs Mankind is the fight 4 mankinds existance *NM* Iceman - 26/11/2009 04:36:17 PM 208 Views
I think you are wrong on the 90% darius_sedai - 26/11/2009 05:51:28 PM 484 Views
Not at all Sidious - 26/11/2009 07:23:39 PM 548 Views
But, in the interest of DRAMA, the Shadow's forces would first need to be on the edge of victory... Shannow - 26/11/2009 07:29:44 PM 1014 Views
Not they don't Sidious - 26/11/2009 07:51:40 PM 1005 Views
Think tLotR kavorka - 26/11/2009 03:31:34 PM 608 Views
I agree *NM* Sidious - 26/11/2009 04:47:46 PM 200 Views
Some expert on Dragonmount calculated the number of Trollocs that the Blight can support... Shannow - 26/11/2009 06:42:17 PM 536 Views
That assumes Trolloc food in the Blight grows at normal rates. fionwe1987 - 26/11/2009 07:12:05 PM 505 Views
Re: Some expert on Dragonmount calculated the number of Trollocs that the Blight can support... kavorka - 26/11/2009 08:21:47 PM 551 Views
This is assuming some things... Great Lord of Chaos - 27/11/2009 03:04:59 AM 491 Views
That's an incredibly naive assessment of the Shadow's approach. Tom - 26/11/2009 10:51:56 PM 475 Views
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