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I didn't think that Mat was that "off" really. MightyYT Send a noteboard - 01/12/2009 01:36:17 AM
I feel as though Mat Cauthan's character was not translated well by Brandon Sanderson. I think Mat is a hard person to do right, and BS did a bang up job for the most part. However, a few scenes in particular struck me as overtly disharmonious with my impression of Mat up to this book:

a. His intro scene, where he spends the better part of the chapter complaining to Talmanes about women.
Now, complaining in and of itself is not a foreign behavior. However, Mat's complaints were usually more internal dialogue, with quick bursts of emotional expression, such as "burn me!" or "bloody, flaming women!" Certainly, making up some overly descriptive and nonsensical example of a dicing game was out of character for Mat.

b. His "plan" for getting intel about Verin
I actually didn't mind this meeting where he creates intricate backstories to his men going undercover. My complaint is that it was poorly implemented. By that, I mean there seemed little purpose to his planning. Talmanes being a warder, and it being an intentional oddity to create distraction, was a nice touch, but the rest of the scene was just wrong. Mat is often funny and quirky in his initial behavior, but there is always a deeper purpose behind his actions, usually supported by his upbringing by a shrewd farmer and horse trader, or his 'Finn-filled memories. This scene was just... unnecessary and out of character. Mat has never shown interest in drama before this time. Having said that, I did enjoy the scene for what it was. It definitely made me laugh (especially Talmanes, though he also felt wrong).

c. Improper oaths and cursing
This is a problem throughout the whole book, but it stands out the most with Mat, as he is generally quite free with oaths. I don't remember if BS even used the word "flaming" at all, though I'd have to go back and check, but his big faux pas was "burn it" which I don't really remember ever reading up to this point. The proper oath, of course, is "burn me." I hope people have brought this up to him, because it is probably one of the most irritating things, especially now that I am listening to tGS on my work commute on audiobook. This is really something that should not have been missed by Sanderson, but especially not the rest of the editing staff, and I hope the next two books are not plagued with this problem.

I'd really like to hear from everyone on this. Do you agree? Disagree? Why?



I thought the scene with him complaining about women was just his way of coming to terms with his marriage and love for Tuon. And the part with the intricate backstory seemed to show that he learned a bit after his 'escape' from Ebou Dar. Namely that people need to know the history of the people they are portraying.


Talmanes was really the one who wasn't portrayed right at all. Talmanes never had the mirth that he displayed in this book. It was almost as if he was the straight man who couldn't keep it straight.
Castle: This is so weird. I dressed up as him for Halloween.

Beckett: Me too.

~When Castle and Beckett met Gene Simmons.
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I didn't think that Mat was that "off" really. - 01/12/2009 01:36:17 AM 422 Views
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Yeah, "burn it" is just strange after hearing "burn me" for so long. - 02/12/2009 12:51:44 AM 378 Views

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