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Re: about Semirhage redqueen Send a noteboard - 04/12/2009 08:16:15 PM

I think people forget that Semirhage was a shielded channeler. Without the Power, the Forsaken are less than normal people. They rely on their incredible skills and powers with saidin or saidar to create their legend. If you manage to take that from them, they are useless.

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Later however, I think she fully lived up to her legend as the Lady of Pain. Rand was completely broken by her skills. She was by far more sadistic than any of the Chosen have ever been, and she even did it with saidin and physical force - imagine if she'd used her natural abilities.


I agree that Semirhage was much more believable after she'd collared Rand. I remember clutching my book in horror when I first read that scene, certain that Semirhage was going to force Rand to kill Min, and feeling every second of Rand's horrified desperation. Using his own hands and his own Power, it would have snapped his (already fragile) sanity even without the severing of the Warder bond. Given a dungeon and a few weeks to work, she probably could have had him do it even without the collar. But I digress, I wasn't disappointed in Semirhage completely, just in her response to her captivity. Where was the Semirhage who, in the AoL, managed to frighten her jailers into smuggling her to safety? She didn't have saidar then either.

But I suppose, like all the Forsaken, she underestimates the modern people of Randland. She might actually have been arrogant enough to assume she couldn't be captured, which would be idiotic, considering Rand's track record with the other Forsaken. Again, disappointing.
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Semirhage and Egwene - 04/12/2009 02:31:45 PM 1890 Views
I agree with all of that. - 04/12/2009 02:58:48 PM 1130 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. *NM* - 04/12/2009 03:22:49 PM 547 Views
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The entire cast is full of Perfect Sues and Stuarts (I may have just made latter up) - 04/12/2009 03:14:27 PM 1119 Views
If you plan to write that review before the last two books are out, you better get re-reading now. *NM* - 04/12/2009 03:20:31 PM 491 Views
I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! - 04/12/2009 04:12:32 PM 1051 Views
Re: I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! - 04/12/2009 06:50:10 PM 1064 Views
about Semirhage - 04/12/2009 03:21:32 PM 1446 Views
but - 04/12/2009 03:26:29 PM 1015 Views
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Cadsuane is rather close to perfect herself. - 04/12/2009 08:37:21 PM 1171 Views
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She was never THAT person. - 06/12/2009 01:22:39 AM 987 Views
Never WHAT person? - 06/12/2009 10:21:43 PM 1039 Views
I'm not sure I agree - 08/12/2009 12:54:43 PM 879 Views
I agree! - 04/12/2009 04:31:24 PM 977 Views
Re: about Semirhage - 04/12/2009 08:16:15 PM 1021 Views
Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot - 04/12/2009 05:03:48 PM 1149 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot - 04/12/2009 06:42:41 PM 1041 Views
If one compares the characters... - 05/12/2009 11:24:16 AM 939 Views
Did I miss Rand's marriage ceremonies? I always thought the three girls only bonded him *NM* - 05/12/2009 11:27:36 AM 480 Views
You are right... - 05/12/2009 12:21:59 PM 1006 Views
I disagree - 05/12/2009 05:11:28 PM 971 Views
Egwene had the best mix of teachers and a desire to learn. Most believable, IMO. *NM* - 04/12/2009 10:17:56 PM 501 Views
That's really nonsense - 05/12/2009 11:13:20 AM 930 Views
I think your perception is very skewed - 05/12/2009 05:16:46 PM 984 Views
Agreed - 05/12/2009 06:15:46 PM 996 Views
Bull! - 06/12/2009 02:55:13 AM 980 Views
Rabbit! - 06/12/2009 04:14:10 AM 920 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot - 05/12/2009 06:11:40 PM 969 Views
Indeed - 05/12/2009 06:30:39 PM 1043 Views
And yet Egwene is still a fool regarding Gawyn. - 04/12/2009 05:44:49 PM 1065 Views
Gawyn is a fool all of his own - 04/12/2009 08:02:10 PM 1024 Views
Re: Gawyn is a fool all of his own - 05/12/2009 05:54:11 AM 933 Views
Please stop - your use of logic here is sickening! - 06/12/2009 04:43:31 AM 984 Views
I disagree with most of that - 05/12/2009 10:58:12 AM 1038 Views
Egwene has a long way to go ... - 05/12/2009 06:16:31 PM 1081 Views
Hardly a blunder - 06/12/2009 01:43:54 AM 977 Views
Re: Hardly a blunder? Send Egwene back to Silviana. - 07/12/2009 04:03:08 PM 999 Views
Or she her rescue forced her hand. She lost her advantage - 07/12/2009 04:47:56 PM 868 Views
She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM 984 Views
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She should have attacked when they first arrived - 07/12/2009 09:35:33 PM 905 Views
Don't damn me, damn Graendal - 09/12/2009 12:51:18 PM 935 Views
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A couple of points - 09/12/2009 07:11:18 PM 993 Views
I'm re-reading the series now for the first time in years. Egwene has always been a weak character. - 07/12/2009 01:12:15 AM 972 Views
LOL *NM* - 07/12/2009 04:29:56 AM 421 Views
I think you'll find few people who agree with you on both of those counts... - 07/12/2009 01:53:58 PM 1007 Views
Not at all. - 07/12/2009 03:20:38 PM 918 Views
Irritating teen spirits ... - 07/12/2009 04:32:51 PM 1019 Views
As long as the bags were Louis Vuitton all would be fine *NM* - 07/12/2009 04:51:13 PM 541 Views
You must not have been reading the same series I have. - 07/12/2009 10:33:23 PM 1108 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. - 09/12/2009 01:12:56 PM 939 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. - 09/12/2009 02:59:04 PM 1133 Views

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