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She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life Abunderment Send a noteboard - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM
by no longer being inside the Tower garnering favor over Elaida. Her back was to the wall at this point. The BA in the camp had to be eliminated before she went back or they could have easily scattered to the wind, or worse, created more chaos during a real battle!


I think a BA attack unlikely, for reasons I stated previously. But this is irrelevant because the tower would soon recognise Egwene.

Egwene's battle prep was thus irrelevant - and very nearly a CATASTROPHE. A few more minutes and she would have assaulted a Tower that was ready to give itself up!

This near-disaster was averted by luck. She made no attempt to gather intel.

Her "leadership" was crap. And her cowed advisers acted cowed.

Note that this is in response to claims of her perfection. She did ok in (her) circumstances. Doing ok is not "perfect", especially where her assumptions were shown to be wrong.

.. Oh, and surely she would have been in MORE danger from BA if in the tower? No Elaida to protect her. Mesaana on the loose. Chaos all about. Fookrooted. Kill her and she may just be a Seanchan casualty.

Siuan saved her life, I think.
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Semirhage and Egwene redqueen - 04/12/2009 02:31:45 PM 2097 Views
I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 02:58:48 PM 1330 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. *NM* Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:22:49 PM 653 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. nossy - 04/12/2009 03:29:46 PM 1296 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:33:03 PM 1315 Views
Re: I agree with all of that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:13:55 PM 1161 Views
The entire cast is full of Perfect Sues and Stuarts (I may have just made latter up) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 03:14:27 PM 1362 Views
If you plan to write that review before the last two books are out, you better get re-reading now. *NM* Insomdeon - 04/12/2009 03:20:31 PM 602 Views
I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:12:32 PM 1258 Views
Re: I'm actually pretty comfortable with it! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:50:10 PM 1280 Views
about Semirhage Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:21:32 PM 1670 Views
but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:26:29 PM 1214 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:35:52 PM 1237 Views
Re: but nossy - 04/12/2009 03:46:00 PM 1352 Views
Re: but Sidious - 04/12/2009 03:51:03 PM 1270 Views
Cadsuane is rather close to perfect herself. Legolas - 04/12/2009 08:37:21 PM 1398 Views
Re: but TaskmasterJack - 04/12/2009 05:04:12 PM 1224 Views
Re: but WAV - 04/12/2009 05:41:51 PM 1264 Views
She was never THAT person. Wotmaniac Reborn - 06/12/2009 01:22:39 AM 1208 Views
Never WHAT person? nossy - 06/12/2009 10:21:43 PM 1250 Views
I'm not sure I agree Sidious - 08/12/2009 12:54:43 PM 1075 Views
I agree! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/12/2009 04:31:24 PM 1173 Views
Re: about Semirhage redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:16:15 PM 1265 Views
Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Etzel - 04/12/2009 05:03:48 PM 1361 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 06:42:41 PM 1271 Views
If one compares the characters... Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:24:16 AM 1145 Views
Did I miss Rand's marriage ceremonies? I always thought the three girls only bonded him *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 05/12/2009 11:27:36 AM 589 Views
You are right... Etzel - 05/12/2009 12:21:59 PM 1215 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:11:28 PM 1190 Views
Egwene had the best mix of teachers and a desire to learn. Most believable, IMO. *NM* fionwe1987 - 04/12/2009 10:17:56 PM 618 Views
That's really nonsense Etzel - 05/12/2009 11:13:20 AM 1135 Views
I think your perception is very skewed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 05:16:46 PM 1214 Views
Agreed Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:15:46 PM 1221 Views
Bull! fionwe1987 - 06/12/2009 02:55:13 AM 1215 Views
Rabbit! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:14:10 AM 1135 Views
Re: Alas, Semirhage was actually an idiot Sidious - 05/12/2009 06:11:40 PM 1179 Views
Indeed darius_sedai - 05/12/2009 06:30:39 PM 1258 Views
And yet Egwene is still a fool regarding Gawyn. Lord Haart - 04/12/2009 05:44:49 PM 1285 Views
Gawyn is a fool all of his own redqueen - 04/12/2009 08:02:10 PM 1242 Views
Re: Gawyn is a fool all of his own Lord Haart - 05/12/2009 05:54:11 AM 1125 Views
Please stop - your use of logic here is sickening! BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 04:43:31 AM 1180 Views
I disagree with most of that rAndy aL - 05/12/2009 10:58:12 AM 1261 Views
Egwene has a long way to go ... Abunderment - 05/12/2009 06:16:31 PM 1293 Views
Hardly a blunder Nameless Ashaman - 06/12/2009 01:43:54 AM 1202 Views
Re: Hardly a blunder? Send Egwene back to Silviana. Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:03:08 PM 1244 Views
Or she her rescue forced her hand. She lost her advantage darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:47:56 PM 1080 Views
She lost her advantage?!? Siuan probably saved her life Abunderment - 09/12/2009 11:57:26 AM 1225 Views
darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 03:24:34 PM 1236 Views
She should have attacked when they first arrived Nameless Ashaman - 07/12/2009 09:35:33 PM 1113 Views
Don't damn me, damn Graendal Abunderment - 09/12/2009 12:51:18 PM 1150 Views
Re: Don't damn me, damn Graendal Nameless Ashaman - 09/12/2009 06:11:53 PM 1345 Views
A couple of points darius_sedai - 09/12/2009 07:11:18 PM 1249 Views
Yes, the Aes Sedai need to rediscover the meaning of "servants of all" *NM* BlackAdder - 06/12/2009 05:03:19 AM 1259 Views
I'm re-reading the series now for the first time in years. Egwene has always been a weak character. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 01:12:15 AM 1179 Views
LOL *NM* Sidious - 07/12/2009 04:29:56 AM 526 Views
I think you'll find few people who agree with you on both of those counts... Legolas - 07/12/2009 01:53:58 PM 1236 Views
Not at all. Master Radishes - 07/12/2009 03:20:38 PM 1143 Views
Irritating teen spirits ... Abunderment - 07/12/2009 04:32:51 PM 1257 Views
As long as the bags were Louis Vuitton all would be fine *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2009 04:51:13 PM 642 Views
You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 07/12/2009 10:33:23 PM 1372 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Abunderment - 09/12/2009 01:12:56 PM 1145 Views
Re: You must not have been reading the same series I have. Legolas - 09/12/2009 02:59:04 PM 1356 Views
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